Not in mine John.
It's a SCGC Camden log book, probably produced in the early 70's, at the
latest, (fist logged flight 2/12/75) probably before the "GFA" log book
even existed, perhaps ?
Inside back cover is History / Ratings, but opposite page does have
"General Information" which includes checks, Chaotic, Chob, Fust and
Hhellt, and rules of the air (4) - head on, converging, overtaking and
landing, AND rules in thermals (3) highest, first and joining.
No 200 feet there either !!!
John Parncutt wrote:
By the way, anybody who hasn't seen the rules of the air, including
the 200 ft rule might like to look at the back inside page of a GFA
logbook, its all there!
John Parncutt
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*Terry Neumann
*Sent:* Tuesday, 21 June 2005 2:25 PM
*To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
*Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] What do I do?
It is written:
One could surmise that the author hadn't heard of the 200 foot rule either.
LOL!
One could, but one would probably also be wrong....
Mike Valentine, being the practical and thinking person he was,
probably foresaw that to lay great stress on an arbitrary figure
would possible cause most people to miss the point entirely -
something which many of the well intentioned contributors to this
discussion have demonstrated with exceptional skill.
This 200 foot rule is a classic example of the old adage that
"Rules are made for the guidance of wise men, and the obedience of
fools".
Wombat and a couple of others in this discussion, notably Kevin
Roden, have more correctly pointed out that notwithstanding the
200 foot rule, sensible, and therefore safe flying in shared
thermals is essentially a product of airmanship. Indeed I will
suggest that it is one of the most crucial and important aspects
of true airmanship. If your technique in sharing thermals keeps
you at all times no closer that 200 feet and six inches from
others, but causes those in other gliders concern, fear, or sheer
terror, you have a long way to go in this area.
Leigh touched on a very interesting point when he reflected on the
thermalling parameters of his Super Grunau. Allow me to expand.
How should everyone behave in a thermal which contains (say)
his Grunau, Bernard's ASH-25, and a club ASK-21 on passenger
flight, all with different flying speeds and pilot aspirations?
This is quite possible at my home club. The only thing which we
might not expect is someone in a hang glider to be part of the
equation. Lets throw one of those in too. Suddenly the magic
200 foot rule gets pretty low on the list of priorities does it
not?
Which is where it should have been right at the start. There is
much more to safe and considerate thermal sharing than a
concentration on an an arbitrary measure of distance dreamed up
somewhere by a doubtless well intentioned committee. For mine,
the concept of "see and _be seen_" carries much more weight.
Finally, since the name of Mike Valentine has been mentioned in
this discussion, perhaps I can relate a story which he told me
once about the judging of distance.
Mike, in one of his earlier lives was enjoying the more
pleasurable aspects of his then job as a supervisor training air
traffic controllers. At the time he was flying circuits at an
airfield somewhere in (probably) some superannuated military jet
with an Indian co-pilot (It would be wouldn't it). Mike
commented at the time on the fact that his Indian friend seemed to
judge his round out and landings very well. The reply? (In
Mike's best Indian accent) "Oh yes - my instructor always told me
to start the round out when at the height of two elephants!"
Which raises the question as to whether Indian glider pilots might
measure their separation in thermals by "x" elephants?
I hope not. A thermal filled with imaginary elephants is not a
comfortable thought.
Regards,
Terry ;-)
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