Mark
I agree but if you want a mobile service that works in almost every town in oz you need telstra CDMA and for somebody that has a good deal from another co stick with it and have a Telstra CDMA ($40 on ebay) prepaid as although telstra never tell you it will stay on line for years WITHOUT a topup each 6 months.

On new home line services you really need to to deal with Telstra rather than another provider who have to go thru telstra otherwise there are very long holds. Same with moving house go back to telstra for a month then leave again.

I fully agree with you on other ADSL providers - fortunately our area also has a "unwired" provider (Linknet) and there is $300 back from Fed gov. Roll on or out unwired bit like NZ and everybody buy a prepaid Skype card for about 2c anywhere and then we never have to use those wires that still seem to get struck by lightning and finally Telstra income might fall.

Sorry bit off the topic of Google earth but I have a hatred going back 15 years and let them get away with NOTHING..............Ian McPhee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]>
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Ian McPhee wrote:
Now is the time to act even if you are fat and happy with Telstra there are people out there still being treated like the scum of the earth.

A different, and more long-term effective way to act is to cease
dealing with Telstra at all.

If you want broadband and you're too far away from a city for ADSL
then sure, BigPond Satellite with a HIBIS subsidy might be the only
way to go.

But for most other services there are loads of other companies which
will give you better customer service, better reliability and a cheaper
price than Telstra will.

In particular, if Telstra ever says you can get ADSL, that also
means that dozens of other ISPs can provide you with ADSL service
as well.  Don't expect Telstra Countrywide to ever point that out,
of course.

At the end of the day, BigPond is one of Australia's most expensive ISPs,
and it's certainly the hardest one to deal with -- *Nobody* enjoys
dealing with Telstra, right?

Do a bit of research and you'll probably find lots of ISPs of varying
sizes and friendliness servicing your area.  Small regional ISPs like
Bridge Online in the Coorong area and Riverland Internet around
Renmark can give good service, and national players like Internode
provide dialup access to every land-line in Australia for the cost of
a local call and broadband ADSL on every phone line where Telstra
can provide it (and many where they can't).

If you keep giving money to Telstra, you'll never encourage them to
change.  The only way to get a better outcome is to support a non-Telstra
alternative, because without that support Telstra will always eventually
win the monopoly war and become the only game in town.

  - mark
    [ network engineer, Internode ]

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