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Richard ..... ,
To be clear on what I have requested
from the Board, I am not advocating anything gory, nor am I advocating names or
aircraft rego or specific details on location or specific aircraft type. But
what I do say is needed is sufficient description and generic definition of
terrain, aircraft performance and location so that members can understand the
circumstances and what could have been done to prevent of mitigate the accident
or incident.
When you attend the GFA's present
Safety Seminars, which I found very worthwhile, that is exactly what you do,
with examples of circuit problems, outlanding problems, including videos and
SeeYou traces, that consider specific cases.
I think that the GFA is missing out
on a great opportunity to reinforce safety thinking in each magazine and we as
members are missing out on exposure to valuable lessons.
The cheapest way to think
thru safety lessons is to learn from the mistakes of others.
But I say again that I am not
advocating any gory details or libellous details.
Ian ..... ,
Accidents and Incidents are reported
within the GFA. The data is available at certain levels within the organization.
It appears that it is just not available to the members. My position is that
this is better handled well by the GFA and not be CASA. All the
best.
Regards Geoff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:42
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ACCIDENT &
INCIDENT REPORTING
Hi guys,
You can add me as a yes to the poll question
too. I think the issue may hinge on how we get these reports ... which
is probably closely related to the potential defamation/liability issues
eluded to by ops. Putting all the gory details in the magazine is probably
not the best idea from a marketing point of view anyway, so perhaps a
seperate newsletter generated by the ops panel & sent to CFI's is the
answer? I came back to gliding 6 years ago & have since been alarmed at
the lack of 'safety consciousness' there is in gliding ops compared to
other forms of aviation that I have experienced (GA & military). I
think a large part of that is due to the fact that we no longer read
regular accident & incident reports.
Richard
Mclean (Beverley Soaring Society)
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wrote:
> Hi Geoff, > I thought incidents and accidents were
reported. At > least those which are reported in the first
place. > I am a little ambivilent to them being published in >
Soaring Australia other than brief reports and a web > location where
people can access a fuller report. I > would also suggest that incident
and accident > reports be sent to all clubs so instructor panels >
can discuss them and the impact on their clubs. > If we are talking
about CASA having a role in > incident and accident reports then I am in
favour. > They have been passing the buck on this issue for > some
years now. > I trust Z 2 is well and keeping you happy, love the >
flag, the other logo looks like a skull and > crossbone. I know there
must be a story to that. > Roll on summer. > Cheers > Ian
Patching > Kookaburra Precision Soaring Team. > -----
Original Message ----- > From: Geoff Kidd
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in >
Australia. > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:59
PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ACCIDENT &
INCIDENT > REPORTING > > > Ah
............ you are right Brian. > > If you are
willing to say in publicly, how would > you have voted anyway and I'll
add that on to the > list. > > Regards
Geoff > > > ----- Original Message
----- > From: Brian Wade
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring
in > Australia. > Sent: Tuesday, November
01, 2005 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring]
ACCIDENT & INCIDENT > REPORTING > >
> It seems that you have to be registered to
cast > a vote. >
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Original Message ----- > From:
Geoff Kidd > To: Discussion of
issues relating to Soaring > in Australia.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005
1:58 PM > Subject: [Aus-soaring]
ACCIDENT & INCIDENT > REPORTING > >
> If you have an interest in this
subject, > please go to > http://www.gliderforum.com/thread-view.asp?threadid=1928&posts=0 >
and cast your vote. > > I
will try to submit the result to the GFA > Board prior to their meeting
next week, in support > of my submission to the Board that the GFA
should > adopt more expansive Incident & Accident Reporting >
to members. > >
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