----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:05
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ACCIDENT &
INCIDENT REPORTING
Richard ..... ,
To be clear on what I have
requested from the Board, I am not advocating anything gory, nor am I
advocating names or aircraft rego or specific details on location or specific
aircraft type. But what I do say is needed is sufficient description and
generic definition of terrain, aircraft performance and location so that
members can understand the circumstances and what could have been done to
prevent of mitigate the accident or incident.
When you attend the GFA's present
Safety Seminars, which I found very worthwhile, that is exactly what you do,
with examples of circuit problems, outlanding problems, including videos and
SeeYou traces, that consider specific cases.
I think that the GFA is missing
out on a great opportunity to reinforce safety thinking in each magazine and
we as members are missing out on exposure to valuable lessons.
The cheapest way to think
thru safety lessons is to learn from the mistakes of others.
But I say again that I am not
advocating any gory details or libellous details.
Ian ..... ,
Accidents and Incidents are
reported within the GFA. The data is available at certain levels within the
organization. It appears that it is just not available to the members. My
position is that this is better handled well by the GFA and not be CASA. All
the best.
Regards Geoff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:42
PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ACCIDENT
& INCIDENT REPORTING
Hi guys,
You can add me as a yes to the poll question
too. I
think the issue may hinge on how we get these reports
... which
is probably closely related to the potential
defamation/liability issues
eluded to by ops. Putting
all the gory details in the magazine is
probably not
the best idea from a marketing point of view anyway,
so
perhaps a seperate newsletter generated by the ops
panel & sent to
CFI's is the answer? I came back to
gliding 6 years ago & have since
been alarmed at the
lack of 'safety consciousness' there is in gliding
ops
compared to other forms of aviation that I have
experienced (GA
& military). I think a large part of
that is due to the fact that we
no longer read regular
accident & incident
reports.
Richard Mclean
(Beverley Soaring Society)
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Patching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
> I thought incidents and accidents were
reported. At
> least those which are reported in the first
place.
> I am a little ambivilent to them being published in
>
Soaring Australia other than brief reports and a web
> location where
people can access a fuller report. I
> would also suggest that
incident and accident
> reports be sent to all clubs so instructor
panels
> can discuss them and the impact on their clubs.
> If we
are talking about CASA having a role in
> incident and accident
reports then I am in favour.
> They have been passing the buck on this
issue for
> some years now.
> I trust Z 2 is well and keeping
you happy, love the
> flag, the other logo looks like a skull
and
> crossbone. I know there must be a story to that.
> Roll on
summer.
> Cheers
> Ian Patching
> Kookaburra Precision
Soaring Team.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Geoff Kidd
> To: Discussion of
issues relating to Soaring in
> Australia.
> Sent:
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re:
[Aus-soaring] ACCIDENT & INCIDENT
> REPORTING
>
>
> Ah ............ you are right Brian.
>
> If you are willing to say in publicly, how
would
> you have voted anyway and I'll add that on to the
>
list.
>
> Regards Geoff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Wade
> To: Discussion of issues relating to
Soaring in
> Australia.
> Sent:
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:11 PM
> Subject:
Re: [Aus-soaring] ACCIDENT & INCIDENT
> REPORTING
>
>
> It seems that you have to be registered to
cast
> a vote.
>
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> -----
Original Message -----
> From:
Geoff Kidd
> To: Discussion of
issues relating to Soaring
> in Australia.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01,
2005 1:58 PM
> Subject:
[Aus-soaring] ACCIDENT & INCIDENT
> REPORTING
>
>
> If you have an interest in this
subject,
> please go to
>
http://www.gliderforum.com/thread-view.asp?threadid=1928&posts=0
>
and cast your vote.
>
> I
will try to submit the result to the GFA
> Board prior to their
meeting next week, in support
> of my submission to the Board that the
GFA should
> adopt more expansive Incident & Accident
Reporting
> to members.
>
>
>
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