TRUE i stand corrected ,
In this case the supply authority will have all the data on there location
and heights ( allowing for cable droop), getting this data out of the
authority maybe a hard task , what we want regards to information being
lat/long and heights would be considered private information for internal
use of the company only , thats even if the supplier has lat/longs recorded
digitally , they are more than likely a pen line on a map tucked away in a
archive store .......... never hurts to ask for the info tho.
In regards to owner ship yes the assets are still owned by the supplier ,
in the remote community when the request for connection the supplier will
work out the total costs for the installation the ask the consumer to pay a
resonable amount of money towards the costs , (being that you are the sole
user of a very costly asset ) then if regular maintence is needed the
consumer will be asked to pay a portion of the costs if not all the costs.
note (in WA)
if your are remote and you want power to be connected to your house
/homestead expect to pay up to 60k for a decent power run and wait about a
year for the works to actually happen.
regards
ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kittel, Stephen W (ETSA)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] SWER
Guys, the SWER lines which we are talking about are not consumers mains.
They are high voltage distribution lines. 13kv in most states and 19kV
in SA. They are generally not owned by the land owner.
http://www.ruralpower.org/swer_003_what_is.htm
They were a technically limited but cheap way of getting power to rural
properties. So they are widespread in the semi remote areas of
Australia. Ie where we fly. They are generally a single steel (yes,
that's right, steel) wire with a span of 200-250m between poles. That's
why they are so hard to see.
Don't mistake these for low voltage systems (240/415). Of which single
phase (2 wires) or three/multi phase (3 or 4 wires and rarely 2) can be
found in the country but usually near larger towns which have some
permutation of a 3 phase HV supply.
Regards
SWK
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Jones
Hello all,
SWER power lines are generally in WA 98% privately owned by
the consumer , The electricity supplyer ( Western power ) in
most of WA is liable and will maintain infrastructure up to
the "Point of attachment" (POA) ,which is usally the first
pole within 20 meters of the property boundary , on the top
of the pole the incomming grid line(s) will be joined to the
Consumer line to the property that connection is the point of
attachment ,
I had a friends farm property snap the Consumers line out of
the POA , the local linesman arrived the next day mounted the
pole undid the cover and said to the owner "Your cable has
corroded thru and snapped ....call the local electrican he
will sort it out for you ".
Then my phone rang with a frantic friend come out and fix my
incomming powerline......needles to say i had to go up the
power pole like a rat up a drain pipe and repain the live connection .
Btw SWER = Single Wire Earth Return
Reporting of the physical location of consumer poles and wire
was reported (many years ago) but now with the move for
Electrical Contractors to self Regulate compliance to the
standards as long as the contractor signs off that its legal
the regulators and supplies are happy , if its wrong the
legal powers to be come at the contractor at a very fast rate
and usally the contractor gets heavy fines a nice pink
"notice to corect " and loss of contractors ticket and
sometimes loss of all electrical licences .
The best thing to do is to send out a blank proforma to all
the farmers that people know along most frequently use glider
routes and around airfields to sketch , measure and draw the
infrastructure on to a suppled topographic map and send it
back to a" central colation point " where the data can be
digitally drawn on a map and marked with notes about the
lines and transformers , in what ever drawing package that is
compatible with pda's used for glider navigation then
uploaded possible to the gfa website every month as changes
are made and new information comes to light so every one can
down load and update their PDA databases monthly
..........just my $ 0.02 worth yes i know it requires a bit
of leg work but in the gliding world you would be supprised
just how many local farmers do fly gliders and even powered aircraft
regards
BEN
WA Licensed Electrican
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