Wayne
 
We have a couple of the RFS Pilots staying with us at present for water bombing of fires in the Riverina.
 
I'll have a chat with them next opportunity and see if they have any power line data other than that provided by their eyes.
 
G'day & regards Geoff
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:48 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Re:swer

You may be pointing the way, Ben! Perhaps what is needed is just a
centrally located DATABASE (GFA?, maybe WIKI?) of known hazards. The
database could be updated by any pilot and not always with warnings,
maybe a "great feild south of the farmhouse, nice cold beer inside" or
similar. This database will grow over the years and represent a great
part of the country we may outland in! As a side, this thought came to
me with the recent release of the ATSB information of a crashed chopper,
killing all aboard. They had hit a wire, game over instantly. We are now
flying around with these wonderful gadgets capable of vast amounts of
detail, why not include more information about the ground?
Yes, I know its not a substitute for good lookout.
Thanks for the input, Wayne
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>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:52:30 +0800
>From: "Ben Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] SWER
>To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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>Hello all,
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>SWER power lines are generally in WA 98% privately owned by the consumer ,
>The electricity supplyer ( Western power ) in most of WA is liable and will
>maintain infrastructure up to the "Point of attachment" (POA) ,which is
>usally the first pole within 20 meters of the property boundary , on the top
>of the pole the incomming grid line(s) will be joined to the Consumer line
>to the property that connection is the point of attachment ,
>
>I had a friends farm property snap the Consumers line out of the POA , the
>local linesman arrived the next day mounted the pole undid the cover and
>said to the owner "Your cable has corroded thru and snapped ....call the
>local  electrican he will sort it out for you ".
>Then my phone rang with a frantic friend come out and fix my incomming
>powerline......needles to say i had to go up the power pole like a rat up a
>drain pipe and repain the live connection .
>
>Btw  SWER = Single Wire Earth Return
>
>Reporting of the physical location of consumer poles and wire was reported
>(many years ago) but now with the move for Electrical Contractors to self
>Regulate compliance to the standards as long as the contractor signs off
>that its legal the regulators and supplies are happy , if its wrong the
>legal powers to be come at the contractor at a very fast rate and usally the
>contractor gets heavy fines a nice pink "notice to corect " and loss of
>contractors ticket and sometimes loss of all electrical licences .
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>The best thing to do is to send out a blank proforma to all the farmers that
>people know along most frequently use glider routes and around airfields to
>sketch , measure and draw the infrastructure on to a suppled topographic map
>and send it back to a" central  colation point " where the data can be
>digitally drawn on a map and marked with notes about the lines and
>transformers , in what ever drawing package that is compatible with pda's
>used for glider navigation  then uploaded possible to the gfa website every
>month as changes are made and new information comes to light  so every one
>can down load and update their PDA databases monthly
>
>..........just my $ 0.02 worth yes i know it requires a bit of leg work but
>in the gliding world you would be supprised just how many local farmers do
>fly gliders and even powered aircraft
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>
>regards
>
>BEN
>WA Licensed Electrican
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