There is more to doing business in the 'market' than just 'value for money'.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Borgelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tom Wilksch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring 
in Australia." <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:10:39 +1000
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] VSU was: Sporting Licences

At 05:51 PM 7/06/2007, you wrote:


> > Well *you* might. Others simply don't have the time or aren't
> > interested or already have real world interests.
>
>May I ask what you base this on?  Have you ever studied at Uni?  Something
>about the way you keep saying 'real world' makes me think not, but i could
>be wrong.


Not that it is any of your business or even relevant to the 
discussion here, but I spent a total of 7 years in the tertiary 
education system, two of them on staff.


> > If there are so many people like you one would think there would be
> > enough union membership that campus life would continue as before.
>
>You're right of course.  Unfortunately it all takes time.  The affects of
>lack of Union membership are felt in the following years, and this delay
>makes it hard to convince people to sign up.  Why pay money that will only
>start to benefit people after you have left?


er... the union already existed, membership was made non compulsory, 
people voted with their wallets. The union wasn't perceived as 
supplying value for money.
It is called the market. Get used to it. The alternatives mostly 
involve threatening people with violence in one form or another.


> > What you are complaining about is that nobody is now holding a gun to
> > the heads of the other people to get them to cough up to subsidise
> > your minority interests.
>
>I'm not talking about minority interests.  My uni has lost a range of
>_services_ such as subsadised books for students, printing facilities and
>the book store itself.  I dont actually care about the Union, just the
>facilities it provides.  Would be perfectly happy with a facilities fee or
>something like that.  Unfortunately, when it comes to the allocation of
>money, politics is always involved.
"subsidised books" . Where does the subsidy come from? Union fees or 
other income made by the union(aas a result of fees). If someone gets 
a subsidy, somebody else is missing out and getting nothing for their money.

I guess this is a "right wing libertarian viewpoint"

What are you doing at uni?

Mike
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