Hi all,

 

Reg, if you can use the vario as source, then you get the vario
data(Airspeed, Altitude and rate of climb fed to the PDA with the GPS
signal).

 

The PDA will also display flarm data so ideally the vario GPS signal is
sourced from the flarm, fed to the vario with the flarm data included then
the vario adds its data and passes on the whole lot to the PDA for display.

 

By the way a 2 seater repeater can be setup via Bluetooth link with XC Soar
and presumably WinPilot, so one only needs to supply power to the backseat
PDA, and it gets all of the mixed DATA.

 

E-Frontier have a 5 volt regulator in a 12V cigarette lighter plug, with an
IPAQ plug and a PS2 GPSIN socket for $19. I have pulled one apart and built
into a small jiffy box with the appropriate connectors. Contact me off list
Reg and I will be happy to give you a hand with installation, or assemble at
cost any type of cable you require.

 

http://www.efrontier.com.au/estore/product_info.php?cPath=2_8
<http://www.efrontier.com.au/estore/product_info.php?cPath=2_8&products_id=3
0> &products_id=30

 

All you need to do is change the PS2 GPS socket, or make up an adaptor cable
from a PS2 plug to whatever GPS data source you want to use.

 

They also have a suitable PS2 mouse GPS mouse for $70, though a flarm or a
logger is better as they have a pressure altitude sensor, giving more
accurate results.

 

I am in the process of designing an interface box that has on the front 2
GPS inputs for flarm or Garmin or any other and logger, a PDA out and a
switch so you can select GPS from flarm or logger.(This is so the logger can
connect to the PDA for task declaration, and gives redundancy to the GPS
source). If the vario is the GPS source one of the front panel sockets would
be used.

 

The commercial boxes I have seen end up a horrible mish mash of serial
adaptors when installed.

 

 I plan to use all RJ telephone style connectors, and then assemble the
appropriate leads. On the rear of the box there is a GPS OUT to vario socket
and a GPS IN from vario socket. The idea being that a loop cable can be
plugged in to these if a vario is not used. The idea is to mount this in the
instrument panel.

 

A useful fact, Volkslogger and Colibri are capable of using the same 6 pin
cable, as even though the Colibri has an 8 pin socket the extra 2 pins are

Extra power pins, so that the first and last pair on either side of the
connector are power, the 6 pin connector only supplies the inner 2 pims but
works fine.

 

The excellent John Wharrington pointed out a wireless  Bluetooth PDA game
controller That can be used to remote control the PDA, mounted on the stick
or wherever, costs $80, neat! See here http://www.smartgamepad.com/

 

To the PFY(Dion), memory card is worth $15, no effort to load, he's still
making a packet, and do you think he's paying for the TOMTOM software? It
was 70,000 people making a living from EBAY BTW!

 

I have tried to get data out from an L-Nav with no luck, it only has one
DATA socket and no GPS is built in so one has to use that input to supply
GPS data....Grrrr

 

Before you buy Winpilot try XC Soar, its free and support is great!

 

As to the comment on Terrain colours, in XC Soar there are a number of
colour styles one can use for terrain, I suggest the ICAO colour scheme.

 

I plan to do up an article for Soaring Australia, with a set of Pinout
diagrams for the most common devices, but I need the FLARM pinouts, and the
Borgelt pinouts still to complete the set.

 

Finally, spot on Ross the Vario manufacturers have zero motivation to help
in this area, they would much rather sell you a new unit. Amusingly I read
an ad from an old AG about a common digital vario extolling the fact that it
would overcome obsolescence by software updates-which are no longer
available! A black box (no display) vario engine is what is really needed

To maximize this sort of setup, but I am not holding my breath.....

 

One last note, IPAQ's have no backup battery and if charged and left on the
charger they do not start charging until the power is disconnected, so that
if you leave one fully charged on the charger for say a month it will
flatten the battery and lose its data, even though the charger is connected.
I strongly suggest you make us of the full backup facility on the PDA when
everything is setup, so restoring the PDA is quick and easy. The best bet is
to have a timer on the charger that disconnects the power once a day for 5
minutes, then the PDA will charge again.(Great piece of design that)!

 

Finally, does anyone have an up to date Australia.txt airspace file, as the
one I have is 2004 vintage, this files defines what airspace is displayed.

 

 

Phew, sorry guys, that went on a lot longer than I intended!

 

Regards All

 

Dave

 

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