Not total rubbish - apparently "pajero" is literally Spanish for stallion, however slang for one who is, as Seinfeld famously once suggested, "no longer the master of his domain"
Richard McLean --- Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pajero in Spanish means Stallion, the supposed > translation from the rumour > is rubbish. > > > > _____ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 7:53 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car > > > > I couldn't agree more regarding the dominant factor > in the towing > combination. I had a trailer catastrophe not long > ago and had I been driving > a light weight vehicle I'd have been pulled all over > the place by a trailer > with one wheel. As it happened I had full control of > the combination and was > able to pull over safely. A lighter towing vehicle > may well have been > dragged into oncoming traffic! I drive a 2000 Pajero > (is it true what that > word means in spanish?) and couldn't be more > satisfied with its performance. > > Grant H > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Catherine Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > Australia. > <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 8:08 am > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car > > My old 80 series landcruiser does a great job of > towing anything. > Its turbo diesel and uses about 13 l/100km > > I once drove with a commodore from Renmark to > Benalla with both of us > towing a glider trailer and stopped to fill every > time the commodore > did out of curiosity (Didnt need to - have 1000km > range). It took 1-2 > l less fuel each fill! > > Not really a controlled experiment because there > were variations in > the trailers etc, but at least it was not awful. > > Its also very roomy - has good ground clearance, is > diesel so no > problems driving in paddocks on retrieves and fits > all the gear you > need + kids and dogs. > > You can get second hand ones at government/telstra > auctions for > reasonable $$s. New ones are scary $$s. > > -Cath > > > > On 09/09/2007, at 11:16 PM, swk wrote: > > > Further to what Mike said. > > The newer Holdens are not so good in the rear > suspension area (from > > personal > > experience). > > > > I have a 1993 Magna wagon since new which I have > used extensively. > > It seems > > to be a perfectly acceptable car for towing. Even > though it only > > has the > > 2.6l 4 cyl it happily tows single seaters, and > with care towed the > > PAGC Twin > > Astir. > > _However_ dont buy a Magna, they are junk cars. > This one is the most > > unreliable piece of rubbish I have ever owned and > I won't consider > > buying a > > Mitsubishi ever again! > > > > In 2004 I bought a Holden Wagon with the V6 3.8l > engine. It was > > considerably > > more powerful than the Magna and I thought it > would make a better > > tow car, > > but the first time I took my Boomerang out on the > highway it scared > > the > > willies out of me. Almost uncontrollable once past > about 90kph. > > Admittedly, > > the Boomerang trailer is a tad heavy for a single > seater, but there > > was > > never any problem towing it with the Magna. > > Other Holden owners noted a similar behaviour with > their cars on > > the larger > > ASC club trailers too. > > The use of torsion bars helped and I was able to > get the Holden up > > to 110ish > > speeds, but really not too much more. Which is > legal but a bit > > marginal when > > overtaking. (I don't have the Holden anymore). > > > > The Magna was an Ok towing car, but a heap of junk > otherwise. The > > Commodore > > was a good car (the little I drove it) but a poor > glider towing > > vehicle. > > Does this help? :-) > > > > Points to mention: > > As others indicated, all else being equal, a > heavier car is better > > to stop > > the trailer taking over. > > A strong cross wind can turn a normally well > behaved small towing > > car into a > > handful (the wind twists the trailer and > compresses the trailer > > springs > > different amounts. The differing spring > compression makes the axle > > go a tiny > > bit off square and the trailer swings, making the > trailer twist > > more...). I > > remember a trip in a Toyota Corona (Corolla?) > station wagon, where we > > couldn't get above 80 kph. Next week on the same > road with the same > > car and > > same trailer, no problems getting to the speed > limit at all. > > > > > > I have been thinking about a new tow vehicle and I > am coming to the > > conclusion that one of the Subaru wagons would be > better than most, > > but I > > haven't towed with one, so can't say for sure. > > > > Regards > > SWK > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Borgelt" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > Australia." > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car > > > > > > At 10:31 AM 8/09/2007, you wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> We are new to Oz and are about to purchase a > >> family car - which will need a tow bar suitable > >> to tow a single seat glider trailer (glider yet > to be purchased). > >> > >> Any recommendations for good tow vehicles and > gotchas to be aware of? > >> > >> What weight does the car need to be able to tow > >> all up for a single seater + trailer? > >> > >> What down force on the ball hitch should it be > capable of taking? > >> > >> We don't necessarily want to buy a massive > >> vehicle as it will for the most part be a family > >> run around. We might purchase a large 4WD at > >> later date to tow a caravan or other larger > trailers. > >> > >> I have read with interest the looooong trailer > >> debate so information from there does not need to > be reprised. > >> > >> Thanks for any help, > >> > >> Regards Richard > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Aus-soaring mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> To check or change subscription details, visit: > >> > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > > > New, used? Price range? > > > > Depends on what glider trailer too. Most Aussie > > built are way overbuilt and far too heavy. > > > > Commodore/Falcon have plenty of power but soft > > rear suspension and tow ball is a long way aft of > > the rear wheels. My 93 Commodore didn't tow as > well as my 81 Mazda > > 626 RWD. > > Current 2000 Honda Accord is great with stiff and > well located rear > > end. > > > > Check out the max permissable towing weight of > > the VW Golf. Glider pilots in VW design I think. > > Golf TDI seems like a great car. > > > > Mike > > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality > soaring instruments > > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 > > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 > > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 > > Int'l + 61 429 355784 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com > <http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [email protected] > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _____ > > > Email and AIM finally together. 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