Hello all,

I can confirm that Joeyglide is being run in accordance with the
Australian Nationals rules, and I apologise for any suggestion that it
might not be.

In my previous note, I was stating the default penalty.  There is a
provision in the rules for the Penalties Committee to apply a more
lenient penalty in the non-competitive part of the flight, if the breach
of airspace was not to the competitive advantage of the pilot and where
there were extenuating circumstances.  I cannot comment in detail on the
reasons for their decision - I can only say that they have that option
and obviously exercised it in this case.

Cheers  and Merry Christmas to all.

Tim



Tim Shirley wrote:
> The Australian Nationals Rules do not differentiate. 
>
> There is a three-level penalty which is the same as that which
> operates at World Comps:  first offence, outlanding at the point of
> the offence; second offence, zero for the day; third offence,
> disqualification.  Naturally, an outlanding before the start makes the
> first offence the same as the second :)
>
> I do not know why Joeyglide would be runto  any other rule.   They
> should be running on current Nationals rules - and until I had spoken
> to the CD, I would not assume otherwise, regardless of what may be
> posted in this forum.
>
> Tim
>
> Mike Borgelt wrote:
>> At 10:15 AM 20/12/2007, you wrote:
>>   
>>> Well this changes everything.
>>>
>>> The scorer has undertaken to seek clarification about the rules,
>>> and it seems that pre-start airspace violations provide for a 100
>>> point penalty, not zero points.
>>>
>>> There'll be updated scores in due course :-)
>>>
>>> The other interesting thing is that we're now five days into the
>>> contest and none of the people affected by this have read the rules
>>> and raised a protest.  As David Conway says, "That kind of
>>> education is one of the reasons we run JoeyGlide."
>>>
>>>    - mark
>>>     
>>
>> Maybe nobody bothered with that rule because it is absurd. Could 
>> someone please detail the "thinking", to use the term loosely, behind 
>> that penalty system?
>> Surely an airspace violation during a contest flight is just that and 
>> the penalty should be the same no matter when it occurred? The 
>> consequences whether in civil penalties or mid airs are surely the 
>> same. I can't see CASA bothering to differentiate between pre start 
>> and after start when taking the violater to court.
>>
>> Mike
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