Now that I'm back online, albeit from a horizontal position, the standard of messages should improve greatly. I mean if we were meant to send e mails from a sitting position surely some bright spark would have figured how to install a system in the smallest room by now? Don't worry if my messages just fade away, its probably be the drugs. Have a safe and enjoyable weekend of flying and fun. Please let those of us who cant go flying just how good or bad it was. AND a big thanks for all the calls, they make me feel much better. Cheers Patch
---- Original Message ---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:04:24 +0930 >There should never be a poor visibilty flight, we fly under VFR >rules. >JR >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Anthony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." ><[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:25 PM >Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm > > >> I think common sense should be applied. >> >> In unobscured air with good visibility the alarm going off >> just serves to keep your eyes open and a glance at the Flarm >> to ensure that no-one is in your blind spots. See and avoid >> should work quite well in these situations. >> >> In the situation with poor visibility and a warning of a >> head on collision, then why can't the glider with the head >> on-collision warning break to their right (with the >> exception being a poor visibilty ridge flight)? In the >> situation where both aircraft are approaching head on, >> collision is avoided. In the instance of a glider overtaking >> another from behind, the collsion is avoided (the glider >> with the rear collision warning takes no action). >> >> >> >> >> >> > I see a potential problem in a busy gaggle at a comp where >> > the Flarm can be going off almost all the time. I love >> > it as a safety device in these circumstances, but if I >> > had to avoid every warning I couldn't see I could never >> > be in the thermal in the first place! >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Richard Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in >> > Australia." <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 3:59 PM >> > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm >> > >> > >> > > There has been some recent discussion over a glass of >> > > Red on how we should be using our Flarms. >> > > >> > > As glider pilots have been trained to lookout and when >> > > they see a threat then they take avoiding action. >> > > >> > > We have been told of an incident when two gliders were >> > > in a head on collision situation as warned by the Flarm, >> > > they were in a near cloud base situation and openly >> > > confess to not taking avoidance action until they >> > actually saw one another. That action resulted in a save >> > > but it was very close. >> > > >> > > I would like to see some debate on setting rules on how >> > > we use Flarm. Do we >> > > say the rule is that we use it to help spot other >> > > gliders (the old see and avoid model) or do we get >> > > ourselves trained into automatically taking avoidance >> > action even before we spot the other glider? > >> > > If there is a consensus that we use the latter then how >> > is it implemented. > >> > > Richard Robinson >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Aus-soaring mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > To check or change subscription details, visit: >> > > >> > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> > > > >> > > -- >> > > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > > Checked by AVG. >> > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - >> > > Release Date: 20/04/2008 3:01 PM >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Aus-soaring mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > To check or change subscription details, visit: >> > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > >_______________________________________________ >Aus-soaring mailing list >[email protected] >To check or change subscription details, visit: >http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
