What about
Terabaginarf and Bringmebarraback?


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cleaver
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Decodes for area met briefings
>
> Not so Robert
>
> The PCA contains a map on one side with Area Forecast boundaries, HF
> frequencies and all the MET locations identified by code, and on the
> other side a  complete list of these locations both by name and by code.
>
> Some of them are IFR waypoints (eg LEYOX - which is very close to an
> old one called OXLEY that is in Western NSW, and GAFFA which is in
> the middle of nowhere - the Great Australian not-very-much) whilst
> others are aerodromes and others are 3 or 4 letter codes for places
> without an aerodrome,
>
> Apart from the fact that these are what is used in all sorts of
> weather reports and forecasts, as others have said there is no reason
> not to use their real names (where they have one) but it will still
> need a map of some sort to see where they are - hence the PCA and its
> regular updates.
>
> And if you think people don't need a special map for the purpose, can
> readers pinpoint the following without referring to a map?
>
>                  Gulargambone
>                  Tullibigeal
>                  Oodnagalarvie
>                  Bolivia
>                  Richmond - all 7 of them?
>                  Point Perpendicular
>                  Seal Rocks
>                  Warburton
>                  Cape Leveque
>                  Coober Pedy
> (just to pick 10 location names at random)
>
> Wombat
>
> At 07:20 13/05/2008, you wrote:
> >Mike Cleaver wrote:
> >>Alternatively you could go to your local Airservices' map reseller
> >>and buy a copy of the current PCA (Planning Chart Australia) which
> >>shows the locations and the Area Forecast boundaries. You can carry
> >>them around more easily than Robert's Google Earth map too - even
> >>on the cockpit if you want.
> >Very true, Mike.
> >
> >However, the PCA only helps in locating places you don't know (or
> >are unsure about) once you have decoded them and then looked up the
> >lat/long in ERSA.
> >
> >I have been using the area met briefings somewhat irregularly for a
> >few years and, while I know quite a number of the ICAO airfield
> >codes around Qld and northern NSW, I don't know many (if any) if the
> >three letter VFR way point codes that are also regularly used in the 
> >forecasts.
> >
> >So, from now on, when I'm on the ground getting together a weather
> >briefing, using Google Earth is going to be the way I cope with
> >these wretched codes from now on!
> >
> >I do question why we are still using these codes today. I can
> >understand that in the days of slow morse code and then
> >teletypewriter transmission short codes saved time. In today's
> >world, I can see only one reason - and that's because it has always
> >been done that way!
> >
> >--
> >Robert Hart                                  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >+61 (0)438 385 533                           http://www.hart.wattle.id.au
> >
> >
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