This is not rocket science folks. Gliding membership will always have a turnover, and all the indications are that his will continue, and indeed increase as the cost of fuel just to get to the airfield starts to bite even more deeply.

There is nothing to be gained from expecting or demanding that "GFA do something" - The GFA executive are essentially powerless to seriously assist in the essential basics of the recruitment / retention challenge. The fact that they have made the job that little bit harder by causing us all to increase the cost of our AE /passenger flights - in essence a tax on exposing the sport to the public is puzzling - but then there have been a few things happen in GFA in recent times which were a puzzle at the time and continue so to be. Furthermore I doubt if removing these people (presumably the "GFA") from office - as was suggested early in the discussion - will make a scrap of difference, because for the most part it isn't a marketing problem in the first place and even if it was, what would or could we realistically expect them to do about it? Exactly what would be achieved by removing the state associations is not clear either, especially when - in SA anyway - the State Association has set up numerous opportunities for presenting gliding to the public at events where interested people gather. Comparisons with other sport aviation in the expectation we can do as they do are interesting but probably futile. We wrestle with the fundamental differences in our respective sports aviation pursuits - the principal one here being that hang gliding machinery (as one mentioned) is lower in cost by several orders of magnitude, and a second one being that hang gliding is perceived as a sport in which you are essentially in it for yourself, whereas our gliding of necessity involves the assistance (both financially and usually operationally as well) of other people. That's how it is - always has been. Expecting that we can somehow compete on equal terms with hang gliding is to deny the very significant differences in what we each offer, and comparisons between the two are generally somewhat irrelevant because of this. Similarly comparisons with RAA numbers - always with the implied expectation that we should be able to match what they are doing - are also flawed.

Gliding has two obvious problems in this era:

1) It is expensive - firstly in terms of money. I have already referred to the difference in the cost between a complete hang glider and one of our beautiful, sophisticated, state of the science soaring machines. However we have a similar problem in respect of making comparisons with RAA aircraft. Compare if you will the cost of a new Jabiru with (say) a new AS-K21. Add the extra for the self launching version if you wish, but the point can be made quite adequately without it. There was a time when gliding could cheerfully claim to offer a low cost entry into sport aviation. We can no longer do that, and it's evident in the market place. There isn't much that GFA or the clubs can do about that. Learn to live with it. 2) It is expensive in terms of time. Gliding - as already mentioned - invariably requires the assistance of others for it to happen. This carries with it the sobering fact and inevitable realization that unless you're very wealthy, you will almost certainly spend more time on the ground helping and watching others fly that you will in the air yourself. This does not appeal to the "Satisfaction Now!!" mentality of today's youth. They get disillusioned with this, and usually end up going somewhere else to get their kicks. The is nothing much that GFA can do about this either, no matter how "democratic" we think we can make it. And there is nothing much that most clubs can realistically do about it either in the real world which will change this. Gliding is like that. Of all that has been written in this thread following its amazing switch from a simple simple question about the best PDA for use in a glider, Jenny Ganderton's comments earlier in this discussion summarize the situation most realistically. Much of what has said by others is interesting, challenging, even stimulating . But some of it is also pie in the sky - reminiscent of the current hooha on lowering fuel prices we see elsewhere in recent days. Market forces are in play in both cases here. We can adapt in part to meet those forces but in the end they - like gravity when we are flying - will ultimately prevail.

I'm sorry I can't offer a more optimistic outlook, but then again I've never been able to change zero sink into a really useful thermal just by wishing things were different from what they are (or blaming the GFA). Terry
(Been there - done that - ever since 1966)
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