Hi all,

 
Mark Newton wrote:

Sounds like much ado about process, and precious little consideration being 
given to outcomes. Lets postulate that GFA is overcome by electoral nirvana, 
and the voting system is reformed to complete perfection. What different 
decisions that affect real pilots would you see the board making that they 
wouldn't make under the current electoral system?

How can we know if we never try it Mark? 

Is the current system sucessful enough at getting "Outcomes" ? (gaining and 
retaining members for starters) 

Who knows  what policiy ideas would arise from an open election?  At least 
ideas would be a start.

> From: "Geoff Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Fw: IMPROVED GOVERNANCE & DIRECT ELECTION OF
>       THE     GFABOARD


 I'd like to have a crack at answering that Mark. Now I appreciate that this is 
supposition, however based on what I have observed of the manner in which an 
equivalent sport aviation controlling body has acted proactively on issues 
effecting its members, and also having seen them raised in this list, I believe 
a less stodgy and more attentive organisation would have been driven by its 
proactive and switched on (truely) member elected Board to:

1.     Lobby for and move to biennial flight reviews in line with most or all 
equivalent bodies in Australia.     This might be done with an understanding 
that Clubs or hirers of aircraft may require annual or more flight check 
reviews for those hiring or using their aircraft.

2.     Lobby for and move to a system that does not require dual signatures for 
rigging of modern sailplanes fitted with automatic & foolproof control 
attachment systems.     I know with mine that it is impossible to connect the 
controls incorrectly ......... and then I still check them the same way that I 
do with my powered aircraft ..... so why should the rigging of a modern 
sailplane be considerd so fraught? Is it because the GFA still considers modern 
rigging requirements to be what they were in 1950? 

3.    Establish an addition & proactive consultative regime to obtain feedback 
from members on general matters and from the competition pilots on competition 
rules issues. If all of the above is being done, perhaps a board that truely 
reflects the grass roots members would move to see that these issues are being 
progressed better.  Can anyone think of any more?

 Regards Geoff 

"A proactive and consultative regime to obtain feedback from members on general 
matters"

That is exactly what is needed Geoff, and on all levels of the sport. 



> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:30:10 +0000
> From: "rolf a. buelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Fw: IMPROVED GOVERNANCE & DIRECT ELECTION
>       OF      THE     GFABOARD

> 
> Hi Geoff,
>  
> You are making the assumption that all or at least most GFA members agree 
> with your objection to annual check flights and dual control checks. I am of 
> the belief that both add to the safety of our sport. I do not understand why 
> it is so objectionable to submit to a second opinion regarding my skills 
> (annual checks) or attention (rigging mistakes) on a very infrequent basis.
>  
> Best Regards - Rolf
 

Is there any real evidence that yearly reviews DO improve aviation safety, and 
if so I wonder why do CASA GA rules work biannually?

The past analyses I have seen in the dear departed AG have shown GA to
have a better safety record on anhourly basis than soaring does.

I think that the issue with dual checks mainly relates mostly to owners of self 
launchers , they have to have another DI rated  GFA member  with them every 
time they rig, Not exactly handy on a weekday, or when away from base.  

Older sailplanes with maual hookups, or more nuts and bolts than a hardware 
shop  to rig, (Such as  those Horse Drawn Zeppelin types fly (-:  ) could still 
have a dual check requirement. 

Regards all

Dave L



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