At 04:31 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote:
Fact: there is change and new development happening. Yes, it is wise to be cautious - but don't be so negative!


I'm not being negative. I worry when magical thinking is substituted for rational analysis.



Fact: Ultralights / Microlights / Recreational planes are being developed and utilised for glider towing (already overseas, OZ will follow).


Yes I've been saying this for years, including that the 120HP Jabiru is worth investigating. However gliding has just gone for 18 metre gliders with 600Kg gross weights which in this country need to be launched at relatively high density altitudes. This might take towplanes with lots of excess power to work properly.

One of the reasons that glider launching is potentially hazardous is that more than one person is involved and all but one aren't flying the glider and the communications between them is a long way from good.

Now what's going to happen if a turbo is launched behind a low power tug and the turbo stops at low altitude? This will be like opening the divebrakes on a normal glider. We've introduced another failure mode. Let's stop and think about this and the failure modes before blithely putting this in widespread use.

Fact: development doesn't stop - someone might even design a <goog_1225776197087.htm>"Carbon Pawnee" style<http://www.cubcrafters.com/news_item.aspx?id=100> aeroplane, engine power will increase. (The Jet design for gliders is doing nicely: just have a look at the 304S Jet)


The 304 jet is a self retrieve only. 90% of the hassle and 10% the utility of self launch. Anyone got a number on the price of the installation?

I'm well aware of jet development having just designed the spark ignition and extend/retract controller and engine data readouts for our jet engine. I'm also aware of the PIK27 and have seen the fuselage frames at Bob Ward's place. It uses a Rotax 914 turbo and I have it from someone who maintained a couple of aircraft using them for years that the best he got out of an engine was 700 hours before things started breaking and falling off the engines. This doesn't apply to the 80Hp or 100 HP 912 apparently. The 914 turbo probably isn't that much cheaper than a 160 Hp Lycoming which properly cooled with means to keep the engine warm in descent (assuming a dedicated towing installation) would make the launch quicker and safer with the same size airframe.

I've also seen that somebody in the US is using a microturbine as a gas generator for a turboprop. I'm not a believer in this as by the time you organise a power turbine, prop drive, maybe a reduction gear and propeller you may as well use a second jet in a glider and avoid the drag problems of propeller extension, housing while retracted etc. While the propulsive efficiency of a turbojet in a glider isn't good(it is around 10 -11%) this is about the same as the effective propulsive efficiency of a launch behind a Pawnee but you aren't flying the Pawnee in the jet case so you actually should save on fuel.

Fact: GFA member numbers are decreasing. Same for ACTIVE and regular PPL pilot numbers.

Yep. But is there a tug pilot shortage? BTW I have it on good authority that in the UK a PPL comes with a glider towing ability. No training, they just assume anyone who can fly and is properly briefed can fly a launch of a glider. I've experienced similar in the US with no problems.



Fact: RA-Aus membership numbers are still increasing.


yep

Fact: Safety in RA-Aus is improving.


Dear God I hope so. Is there some reason RAAus flying should be so much more dangerous than crop dusting per hour? Do you have any statistics to back this assertion that it is getting safer?

Fact: CASA is still in denial and does still not fully recognise the ICAO system. (at least they are taking steps to get there)

?????? There's nothing ICAO compliant about LSA or RAAus or any pilot qualification short of a PPL.

Fact: the stuff we breathe and fly in is the same around the world. (if not better in quality here in Australia) Fact: I'd trust a good AME more than a bad LAME. (that missing "L" does save monay!) Fact: why do aircrafts need to be fixed once they come back to the gliding club after being serviced / checked by a "LAME Organisation"?


I know of one carbon glider that was in for refinishing. It was found that the leading edge(back to the spar) had been glued on with microballoon mixture and was showing some signs of letting go. This was a structural part. I picked up a new glider once to find a pocket knife in the control mixer under the seat. LAMEs don't have monopoly on making mistakes. I also had a LAME appalled at the state of a tug that had been worked on by a gliding club. If you are having trouble with your LAME get another one and get close to him so that you know what is going on.

You still haven't identified any cost saving except a few LAME hours. There's a cost increase for the pilots if they join the RAAus. I've seen a gliding club where the tugs were maintained by the club members who owned them, under LAME supervision. There wasn't a whole lot of availability. That became quite an amusing story.

Mike


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