Hello Matthew,
 
Firstly I have to agree with DMcD from own experience that Lake keepit is a 
fantastic site. If you have the time and want to travel the distance, go there. 
Secondly I have to disagree with DMcD on Victoria's and Melbourne's weather. 
Please see below a posting by GGC's  webmaster on our club site from this 
morning. Make up your own mind who is right. To go to NZ for ab initio training 
will be a great experience but seems a bit of a waste of money to me. Learn to 
fly first and have an even greater experience in NZ.
 
As far as boot camp or club training, you will make faster progress and solo 
much earlier in boot camp. Most clubs will require you to rehash some of boot 
camp training before giving you one of their gliders on your own. The reasons 
vary from the need to experience a greater variety of conditions to the fact 
that many instructors don't believe the commercials do a thorough job (no need 
to shout Mr. Borgelt, that's  just a simple observation). If you don't  count 
your own time financially, club training may be lower cost. How fast you 
progress with weekend training depends largely on the number of days per month 
you come flying, it can easily be done in 2 month to first solo but can just as 
easily be dragged out to one year.
 
Last but not least, flying a glider solo is only the very beginning of gliding. 
To rally enjoy one needs to learn soaring skills and cut the umbilical cord 
tying you to site, instructor and club / commercial operation and go cross 
country.
 
Best Regards - Rolf
 
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Hi, This Saturday 27/12/2008, we had the 50th cross-country flight recorded by 
a GGC pilot this season. The honors go to Andrew Murphy who has flown the PIK 
WQF for a distance of 96 km today. All flights can be viewed and on the club's 
website, on the Cross Country Flights Register - September 2008 / August 2009 
page: 
http://www.gliding-in-melbourne.org/new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=431&Itemid=119
 and flight traces can downloaded from the OLC page linked to each flight. I'd 
like to present some stats on the 50 flights cross-country flights this season: 
- We had eight participating pilots: Adam Webb, Andrew Murphy, Frank Williams, 
Greg O'Sullivan, Jarek Mosiejewski, Jeff Farrow, Mike Durrant and Rolf Buelter 
(Souie Imam and David Fynmore participates as part of coaching program). - A 
total of 8943.05 km have been been flown- Rolf had 12 x/c flights, followed by 
Jarek: 10 and Adam: 8- Rolf had flown: 2943.81 km; Jarek: 2479.21 km and Adam: 
968.15 km- The longest distance flown was: 423.45 km by Jarek and 416.97 km and 
391.36 km by Rolf. - The most utilized gliders were: PIK20B - WQF - 13 flights 
(2559.65 km), LS4a - UKA - 12 (2539.15 km) flights and Jantar Std2 - CQT - 8 
flights (968.15 km)- There were 8 flights longer than 300 km One of the most 
pleasing things that can be read from the stats is that most of the flights, 
including the longest ones, have been done from Bacchus Marsh. If you look 
closely at the list, you'd see that even on marginal days some cross country 
flying has been possible from our airfield, with distances of 200+ km archived 
on average days and 300+ km on reasonably good days. There is rally no excuse 
for not trying you badge x/c flights from Bacchus Marsh. I believe that a we've 
had at least 3 or 4 days this season that would allow achieving 300+ km badge 
tasks even for novice x/c pilots. 
 
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