>The powered paraglider lasted about 40 minutes. Heaps of power though so most 
>of the >time not much throttle had to be used to hold height. I am not sure 
>how long it would last >at full throttle. It used the 30A battery listed on 
>their site.

I think that several of the ultralight sailplanes with electric self
launch capability advertise something like 3 climbs to 2000' on a
charge.

Having only one 20 KW motor is in some ways neither here nor there
since you can either arrange several radially around a big gear ring
or connect one up the back of the other.

There's a piece in Keep Soaring on a Plettenberg motor

http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/Downloads/Keep_Soaring/July_August_2010.pdf

which claims 15KW, 1.9 kgs and US$ 850.

The problem is almost certainly not the motor, more the speed
comptroller and the batteries. Mostly the batteries.

D

On 27/07/2010, Todd Sandercock <[email protected]> wrote:
> The powered paraglider lasted about 40 minutes. Heaps of power though so
> most of
> the time not much throttle had to be used to hold height. I am not sure how
> long
> it would last at full throttle. It used the 30A battery listed on their
> site.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Borgelt <[email protected]>
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, 27 July, 2010 11:34:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] electric glider
>
> Matthew,
>
> Further to the last post:
>
> With the electric motor there are no reduction belt power losses as
> it is direct drive so not directly comparable to a piston engine.
>
> I'm not entirely convinced about the front power concept. It will
> cause a loss of glide performance by destroying the laminar flow over
> the fuselage front. The story about the R/C glider may have more to
> do with the model not having enough up elevator to trim it at climb
> speed with a high thrust line and moving the motor to the nose  fixed
> that. While the motor is running there is lots of high velocity air
> flowing over the fuselage causing more drag.
>
> In any case while a get you home engine is a good idea it doesn't
> solve the launch problem. 10% of the utility for 90% of the complexity.
>
> Todd,
>
> How much battery on the powered chute?
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> At 09:18 AM 27/07/2010, you wrote:
>>Front mounting electric motors seem to be increasingly feasible,
>>some companies are already selling them.
>>
>><http://www.front-electric-sustainer.com/>http://www.front-electric-sustainer.com/
>>
>>
>>Their motor goes up to 25kW for use only as a sustainer (1.6m/s), so
>>perhaps a more powerful motor is needed for self launching...
>>
>>~Matthew Scutter~
>>
>>On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Mike Borgelt
>><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>Anybody want to do an electric self launcher?
>>
>><http://yuneeccouk.site.securepod.com/PowerMotor_Tech_spec.html>http://yuneeccouk.site.securepod.com/PowerMotor_Tech_spec.html
>>
>>Off the shelf motor, controller and battery tech.
>>A 20 Kw motor with controller and 4Kw-hour battery pack along with
>>suitable prop should be around 37 Kg mass.
>>Say under 40Kg installed.
>>I'm enquiring about price. Will report.
>>Mike
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