At 12:00 PM 16/08/2010, you wrote:
Oh, dear, looks like we're all going to hell in a handbasket...

>as he'd just indicated he couldn't be sure you were properly trained.
Which of course applies to ALL Australian glider pilots and instructors.

Beware a blanket statement, aren't there some glider pilots and
instructors out there who have been 'PROPERLY' trained in the PPL, CPL,
ATPL system?


Are you seriously reading comprehension challenged?
Tom did mention that he had an ATPL and was trying to restore the SLMG rating that used to be issued to PPLs and up. Evidently none of this counts somehow and this is not just in Australia as I know an ATPL working in Europe whose ATPL was acceptable to the Authorities there who had the same problem with getting a gliding licence there. Even though the air law and many other aspects of aviation operations are the same for gliders as for any other fixed wing aerodynes and the person in question had several thousand gliding and motorgliding hours. The overseas issue is one thing and it should be noted that the lack of a real CASA issued glider pilot licence has again caused difficulties for our team overseas. After that accident in Hungary I should think it won't be any easier in future. Third countries may be reluctant to issue pieces of paper that skirt the law to Australians.

The real problem isn't whether or the pilot is competent, it is that *CASA judged* that they couldn't be sure that the person had been trained to the glider pilot syllabus. This necessarily casts doubt on the training of all glider pilots in this country(I do mean ALL as CASA knew that Tom had an ATPL), at least in a court of law. It also means that CASA has judged the oversight, supervision and auditing of the gliding training system, by both itself and GFA in the past, to be unverified and unverifiable,at best. As CASA has been given, by Parliament, the job of overseeing civil aviation *safety* in Australia it is amusing to see the Regulator admit that it has utterly failed by its own standards. It may be time to admit that the "self administration" experiment begun with GFA 61 years ago, which never really worked all that well anyway, has finally failed in today's legal/socio-economic/political environment. Are very small amateur bodies really going to able to comply with CASA requirements? Maybe GFA should be folded in to the 10000 or so member RAAus(it won't be a really good fit at present for various reasons)?


>Has this farce in sport aviation in Australia gone on for long enough,
yet?

I think I would more worried about the people they have driving on the
roads...! ;-)


Which has absolutely nothing to do with what we are talking about here and neither do Neumann's comments or Catherine's. Catherine's is of the "stuff everybody else, I'm all right " nature and Terry's is merely pointless.

Mike


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