Hi Tom,
Good to hear from you. Re your earlier post on Mac and the Diana 2, my 
understanding of this situation is that landing problems are about par for the 
course! Take-offs too in this ship are also supposed to be quite interesting, 
probably for exactly the same reasons you alluded to. I am somewhat surprised 
that the production factory is still going - if indeed it still is! Apart from 
anything else the owner BB seems to have (or had? - does the leopard change its 
spots?), an attitude problem. I have had some slight dealings with him in the 
recent past. My experience was not that his attitude was the problem, but the 
fact that the man  would mostly not answer any  straight question, posed to him.
Re your response to my latest post - it is an interesting aside. Do you really 
expect these two day winners to be on the podium at the end of the contest? 
What is your real belief re team flying? If you think team flying improves the 
chance of a team member winning, don't be a wooze - answer my  question. Say hi 
to Kerrie for me. Have fun.
Cheers,
Gary

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  From: tom claffey 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Team flying - what is it worth?


  The two winners at Uvalde yesterday did not team fly! :]



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  Subject: [Aus-soaring] Team flying - what is it worth?


  Hallo All,
  Preamble
  For years, there has been robust debate in this country, on the subject of 
team flying in Australian Competitions. Some pilots are strongly for it, some 
strongly against it, and some are ambivalent. Some pilots have been known to 
change their viewpoint, when their own circumstances change!
  It is generally acknowledged, that in any modern competition, where the 
practice of team flying is allowed, (such as a World Championship), GOOD team 
flying is essential if any team wants to get at least one of their members onto 
the podium. I have used the word "GOOD" quite advisably, because, like 
everything else in gliding, it takes considerable time and practice to perfect 
the necessary skills.
                                                                  
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  That is of course the rub. How can this practice be carried out? This is not 
the question here, but Allan Barnes, a member of the DDSC has seriously 
considered this particular question and offered some suggestions.  In passing, 
I suggest here,  that if the team changes, then it is probably necessary to 
return to the basics, at least in the short term, to develop the essential 
trust and rapport that is required in this exercise. I would expect that two 
pilots who are experienced team flyers (but not with each other), can far more 
quickly become a new team, than a team made up of any other combination such 
as: Two pilots who have never team flown at all; a team of one experienced team 
flyer, and one pilot who has never team flown before.  A further interesting 
question is "what is the ideal team size"? My own suspicion is that to a 
limited extent, more is better. In the world of professional bike racing, the 
team size is 9 riders. In gliding at World level, I think 3 pilots per class is 
the official limit, so I suspect that the possibilities of a team larger than 3 
has never been explored! Can perhaps some research dollars be obtained (to the 
greater good of Oz gliding, and indeed World gliding), to explore this subject? 
I am certain that there is the odd PhD or two that could be obtained here, and 
the pilots in the studies would of course have to undergo maybe hundreds of 
hours of team flying in the interest of this research! What a bugger!
                                                                    
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  The Question
  For the sake of this post, assume that we have a team of  two pilots who are 
competent in team flying. They are pitted against many individual pilots. As 
outlined above, we know that there is an advantage in team flying. 
  So the question is "what do YOU think is the percentage advantage of the team 
flyers over an individual pilot under 'normal' Australian Summer conditions."  
As every exam paper demands - state why you formed this viewpoint.

  Regards,
  Gary


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