Yep about time the handicap in 18 metres for ventus's was adjusted - clearly enough data now to show they are slower.
Nigel Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ventus 2's (tom claffey) 2. Celebration of centenary of soaring (Christopher Mc Donnell) 3. Re: Ventus 2's (Future Aviation) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:03:25 -0700 (PDT) From: tom claffey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yep, the Dwarf model Schemp is the machine of choice for 15M in crap conditions!? After spending 3 weeks in a V2B I have a lot of respect for them, however for numerous reasons there is NFW I would trade my 29 for one! The 29 owners flew 18M so not many to compare. How many V2 -15s in Aus? I would like to try a 29 in 15M, however that class is dead in Australia for new gliders - 18M is the way to go! Bernard may be happy with Bruce's choice of glider for Uvalde next year! ;] Tom ________________________________ From: Adam Woolley <[email protected]> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's The e-mail I sent was literally meant to be a cheeky one, knew it'd cause a stir amongst readers. As I saw it, the comment to not to bother with the other classes basically meant - that most would, & they'd see the full picture.. I noticed that the AS gliders were the machine of choice in 18m, they sure are a great machine! I just didn't want to admit it :) Safe Circles, WPP ----- Sent from mBox Mail on my iPad http://www.fluentfactory.com/mboxmail ________________________ On 2011-08-16 10:50:38 +0000 Future Aviation <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Adam > > Contrary to your advice I did check out the results of ther other classes. > Since you elected > to focus on 15 Meter class I have taken the liberty to bring up the 18 > Meter results. > > a) The first two places went to ASG 29 Pilots > b) There were six ASG 29 amongst the first 10 placegetters > c) The very first V2 (flown by an ex world champion) finished only in > 10th place. > > I ask all the others for forgiveness for bothering them with this > trivial bit of news. It would not have been necessary if a slightly > more balanced style of reporting had been applied in the first place. > > Kind regards to all > > Bernard > > PS: Apparently the ASH 30 prototype left a very good impression. >Starting the engine ? ? ? ? when almost everyone else got home (and >getting 48 points for the > effort) did not >? ? ? ? see it on the podium but the feedback from the pilots and >fellow competitors was ? ? ? ? overwhelmingly positive. > > > > > >? _____? > >? From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam >Woolley > Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:28 AM > To: AUS Soaring > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's > > > http://www.soaringspot.com/lsf_egc2011/results/15-meter/total/day10.ht > ml > > Mmmm, Ventus 2's !! > > Don't worry about checking out the other classes, not important this > time around :) > > > Safe Circles, > WPP > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20110817/104f8c86/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:59:19 +0930 From: "Future Aviation" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's To: "'tom claffey'" <[email protected]>, "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Tom Your e-mail prompted me to look at the results of the pre-worlds in Uvalde, USA. Bruce did exceptionally well. Apparently he flew an ASG 29 and managed to win six days out of eight. Later today I will write to him and congratulate him on the effort. I assume he has decided to fly an ASG 29 again at the world comps next year. Am I guessing correctly? If my information is correct the German national team has also made the switch from the Ventus 2 to the ASG 29. Feel free to have a look at the results of the German nationals (and the other nationals in Europe for that matter). Kind regards Bernard _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tom claffey Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 12:33 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's Yep, the Dwarf model Schemp is the machine of choice for 15M in crap conditions! After spending 3 weeks in a V2B I have a lot of respect for them, however for numerous reasons there is NFW I would trade my 29 for one! The 29 owners flew 18M so not many to compare. How many V2 -15s in Aus? I would like to try a 29 in 15M, however that class is dead in Australia for new gliders - 18M is the way to go! Bernard may be happy with Bruce's choice of glider for Uvalde next year! ;] Tom _____ From: Adam Woolley <[email protected]> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's The e-mail I sent was literally meant to be a cheeky one, knew it'd cause a stir amongst readers. As I saw it, the comment to not to bother with the other classes basically meant - that most would, & they'd see the full picture.. I noticed that the AS gliders were the machine of choice in 18m, they sure are a great machine! I just didn't want to admit it :) Safe Circles, WPP ----- Sent from mBox Mail on my iPad http://www.fluentfactory.com/mboxmail ________________________ On 2011-08-16 10:50:38 +0000 Future Aviation <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Adam > > Contrary to your advice I did check out the results of ther other classes. > Since you elected > to focus on 15 Meter class I have taken the liberty to bring up the 18 Meter > results. > > a) The first two places went to ASG 29 Pilots > b) There were six ASG 29 amongst the first 10 placegetters > c) The very first V2 (flown by an ex world champion) finished only in > 10th place. > > I ask all the others for forgiveness for bothering them with this > trivial bit of news. It would not have been necessary if a slightly > more balanced style of reporting had been applied in the first place. > > Kind regards to all > > Bernard > > PS: Apparently the ASH 30 prototype left a very good impression. > Starting the engine > when almost everyone else got home (and getting 48 points for > the > effort) did not > see it on the podium but the feedback from the pilots and > fellow competitors was > overwhelmingly positive. > > > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam > Woolley > Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:28 AM > To: AUS Soaring > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's > > > http://www.soaringspot.com/lsf_egc2011/results/15-meter/total/day10.ht > ml > > Mmmm, Ventus 2's !! > > Don't worry about checking out the other classes, not important this > time around :) > > > Safe Circles, > WPP > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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