There are pros and cons, can we have the 28 handicap changed compared to LS8
and D2?
The reasons I like what I have are not all performance related.
Tom
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From: Nigel Andrews <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus2's
Yep about time the handicap in 18 metres for ventus's was adjusted - clearly
enough data now to show they are slower.
Nigel
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Ventus 2's (tom claffey)
2. Celebration of centenary of soaring (Christopher Mc Donnell)
3. Re: Ventus 2's (Future Aviation)
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: tom claffey <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Yep, the Dwarf model Schemp is the machine of choice for 15M in crap
conditions!?
After spending 3 weeks in a V2B I have a lot of respect for them, however for
numerous reasons there is NFW I would trade my 29 for one!
The 29 owners flew 18M so not many to compare. How many V2 -15s in Aus?
I would like to try a 29 in 15M, however that class is dead in Australia for
new gliders - 18M is the way to go!
Bernard may be happy with Bruce's choice of glider for Uvalde next year! ;] Tom
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From: Adam Woolley <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
The e-mail I sent was literally meant to be a cheeky one, knew it'd cause a
stir amongst readers. As I saw it, the comment to not to bother with the other
classes basically meant - that most would, & they'd see the full picture..
I noticed that the AS gliders were the machine of choice in 18m, they sure are
a great machine! I just didn't want to admit it :)
Safe Circles,
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On 2011-08-16 10:50:38 +0000 Future Aviation <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam
>
> Contrary to your advice I did check out the results of ther other classes.
> Since you elected
> to focus on 15 Meter class I have taken the liberty to bring up the 18
> Meter results.
>
> a) The first two places went to ASG 29 Pilots
> b) There were six ASG 29 amongst the first 10 placegetters
> c) The very first V2 (flown by an ex world champion) finished only in
> 10th place.
>
> I ask all the others for forgiveness for bothering them with this
> trivial bit of news. It would not have been necessary if a slightly
> more balanced style of reporting had been applied in the first place.
>
> Kind regards to all
>
> Bernard
>
> PS: Apparently the ASH 30 prototype left a very good impression.
>Starting the engine ? ? ? ? when almost everyone else got home (and
>getting 48 points for the
> effort) did not
>? ? ? ? see it on the podium but the feedback from the pilots and
>fellow competitors was ? ? ? ? overwhelmingly positive.
>
>
>
>
>
>? _____?
>
>? From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam
>Woolley
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:28 AM
> To: AUS Soaring
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
>
>
> http://www.soaringspot.com/lsf_egc2011/results/15-meter/total/day10.ht
> ml
>
> Mmmm, Ventus 2's !!
>
> Don't worry about checking out the other classes, not important this
> time around :)
>
>
> Safe Circles,
> WPP
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:19:03 +1000
From: "Christopher Mc Donnell" <[email protected]>
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Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:59:19 +0930
From: "Future Aviation" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
To: "'tom claffey'" <[email protected]>, "'Discussion of issues relating
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Hi Tom
Your e-mail prompted me to look at the results of the pre-worlds in Uvalde, USA.
Bruce did exceptionally well. Apparently he flew an ASG 29 and managed to win
six days out of eight.
Later today I will write to him and congratulate him on the effort. I assume he
has decided to fly an ASG 29 again at the world comps next year. Am I guessing
correctly?
If my information is correct the German national team has also made the switch
from the Ventus 2 to the ASG 29. Feel free to have a look at the results of the
German nationals (and the other nationals in Europe for that matter).
Kind regards
Bernard
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of tom claffey
Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2011 12:33 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
Yep, the Dwarf model Schemp is the machine of choice for 15M in crap
conditions!
After spending 3 weeks in a V2B I have a lot of respect for them, however for
numerous reasons there is NFW I would trade my 29 for one!
The 29 owners flew 18M so not many to compare. How many V2 -15s in Aus?
I would like to try a 29 in 15M, however that class is dead in Australia for
new gliders - 18M is the way to go!
Bernard may be happy with Bruce's choice of glider for Uvalde next year! ;] Tom
_____
From: Adam Woolley <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
The e-mail I sent was literally meant to be a cheeky one, knew it'd cause a
stir amongst readers. As I saw it, the comment to not to bother with the other
classes basically meant - that most would, & they'd see the full picture..
I noticed that the AS gliders were the machine of choice in 18m, they sure are
a great machine! I just didn't want to admit it :)
Safe Circles,
WPP
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On 2011-08-16 10:50:38 +0000 Future Aviation <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Adam
>
> Contrary to your advice I did check out the results of ther other classes.
> Since you elected
> to focus on 15 Meter class I have taken the liberty to bring up the 18
Meter
> results.
>
> a) The first two places went to ASG 29 Pilots
> b) There were six ASG 29 amongst the first 10 placegetters
> c) The very first V2 (flown by an ex world champion) finished only in
> 10th place.
>
> I ask all the others for forgiveness for bothering them with this
> trivial bit of news. It would not have been necessary if a slightly
> more balanced style of reporting had been applied in the first place.
>
> Kind regards to all
>
> Bernard
>
> PS: Apparently the ASH 30 prototype left a very good impression.
> Starting the engine
> when almost everyone else got home (and getting 48 points for
> the
> effort) did not
> see it on the podium but the feedback from the pilots and
> fellow competitors was
> overwhelmingly positive.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam
> Woolley
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011 9:28 AM
> To: AUS Soaring
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Ventus 2's
>
>
> http://www.soaringspot.com/lsf_egc2011/results/15-meter/total/day10.ht
> ml
>
> Mmmm, Ventus 2's !!
>
> Don't worry about checking out the other classes, not important this
> time around :)
>
>
> Safe Circles,
> WPP
>
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