Well I can give you some information from a 'veteran's perspective...having 
piggybacked on Hans Werners efforts during the early eighties and gained (for a 
while) two standard class records. Hans Werner was operating from the Alice 
Springs airport but very readily shared his met information and his tow pilot 
and aircraft (Miles Carrington) with a small group of us operating from Bond 
Springs...once he had definitely started his task. There were some other 
Germans, I think a Mr Muller was one of them, trying for their National records 
out of Bond Springs.Brian's dates are the best information you can have. 
Climate change is real but I'm sure that the best window of opportunity is 
still at the same period. Even back then there were times (HWG went there for 
several consecutive years) when no significant long flights were possible due 
to known poor weather (the itcz to the north, for example), or just plain 
uncertainty due to the large area west of Alice that had (in those days) no 
real met information. That factor has changed a lot.If only two weeks can be 
planned for then there is quite a strong possibility that the conditions may 
not be good enough for very long flights...that statement applies to almost 
anywhere...but smaller tasks, perhaps speed tasks, could still be done.Bond 
Springs (home of the Alice Springs Gliding Club) is a fine site...near town...a 
good strip. The relatively low controlled airspace immediately above the field 
can be managed easily as the controllers have always been very understanding 
and cooperative. I trust that this has not changed in recent years. To operate 
out of the main Airport, as Hans Werner did, probably brings in more 
difficulties than advantages, and would certainly require a very high standard 
of airmanship and communication skills...extra workload for a pilot with an 
ambitious task.The terrain requires respect...outlanding is close to crashery 
and the whole area is extremely 'remote'. But the thermals can be out of this 
world...and I'd recommend oxygen and survival kit be carried.   
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:24:14 +1000
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Alice Springs










JR,
Yes ...I  agree ....... but WPP is not a 
mind reader!. 
 
What about giving him some contact details for 
these people - I suggest off list - but with a posting to indicate that you 
have 
done this.  If you don't have the details, please say so, as of 
course how to make contact these pilots will be WPP's next question. 

 
Nine words in your 
posting??? I suspect that Mr Webster (of dictionary fame), would 
turn in his grave! [Now's there's an opening that might give you lots 
of scope for reply.]
 
Brian du Rieu's post seems to me to be very 
valuable.
 
Simon Holding is/was a contributor to this 
forum. He is another pilot who can possibly help out WPP. I will try 
to play "marriage broker" here. [JR  here is more fertile ground in 
which you might like to sow a few seeds - I am missing your recent lack 
of unique comment on this site!]
 
Regards,
Gary
 
 
 
 
 
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  talk to Tom Bird, Kev Roberts or Bert 
  Perssons
  
  

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