We've heard from Miles Currington that he was the tug pilot for Irwin Muller, not HWG. Miles thinks that Tom Bird was HWG tow pilot in a Cessna 182. regards Jo & Tony Tabart
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of gavin wrigley Sent: Friday, 2 September 2011 6:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Alice Springs Well I can give you some information from a 'veteran's perspective...having piggybacked on Hans Werners efforts during the early eighties and gained (for a while) two standard class records. Hans Werner was operating from the Alice Springs airport but very readily shared his met information and his tow pilot and aircraft (Miles Carrington) with a small group of us operating from Bond Springs...once he had definitely started his task. There were some other Germans, I think a Mr Muller was one of them, trying for their National records out of Bond Springs. Brian's dates are the best information you can have. Climate change is real but I'm sure that the best window of opportunity is still at the same period. Even back then there were times (HWG went there for several consecutive years) when no significant long flights were possible due to known poor weather (the itcz to the north, for example), or just plain uncertainty due to the large area west of Alice that had (in those days) no real met information. That factor has changed a lot. If only two weeks can be planned for then there is quite a strong possibility that the conditions may not be good enough for very long flights...that statement applies to almost anywhere...but smaller tasks, perhaps speed tasks, could still be done. Bond Springs (home of the Alice Springs Gliding Club) is a fine site...near town...a good strip. The relatively low controlled airspace immediately above the field can be managed easily as the controllers have always been very understanding and cooperative. I trust that this has not changed in recent years. To operate out of the main Airport, as Hans Werner did, probably brings in more difficulties than advantages, and would certainly require a very high standard of airmanship and communication skills...extra workload for a pilot with an ambitious task. The terrain requires respect...outlanding is close to crashery and the whole area is extremely 'remote'. But the thermals can be out of this world...and I'd recommend oxygen and survival kit be carried. _____ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:24:14 +1000 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Alice Springs JR, Yes ...I agree ....... but WPP is not a mind reader!. What about giving him some contact details for these people - I suggest off list - but with a posting to indicate that you have done this. If you don't have the details, please say so, as of course how to make contact these pilots will be WPP's next question. Nine words in your posting??? I suspect that Mr Webster (of dictionary fame), would turn in his grave! [Now's there's an opening that might give you lots of scope for reply.] Brian du Rieu's post seems to me to be very valuable. Simon Holding is/was a contributor to this forum. He is another pilot who can possibly help out WPP. I will try to play "marriage broker" here. [JR here is more fertile ground in which you might like to sow a few seeds - I am missing your recent lack of unique comment on this site!] Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: JR <mailto:[email protected]> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Alice Springs talk to Tom Bird, Kev Roberts or Bert Perssons _____ _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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