Cathy

If your non-electric Kookaburra instrument panel is still looking a bit
bare, I have a spare clockwork FLARM if you are interested.

Kind Regards

Owen 

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   4. Re: Airspeed indicators (Daryl Mackay)
   5. Re: Airspeed indicators (DMcD)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:36:42 +0800
From: John Orton <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Vario
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Hi Cathy,

I sent a message of list about a 80mm PZL vario that I have, not sure if you
got it.

Regards,
John Orton



On 5 September 2011 21:13, Catherine Conway <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I'm looking for a cheap, working mechanical vario to replace the one that
> died in my Kookaburra.
>
> While it is possible to thermal without one, it would be nicer and more
> reliable for the students (and for me) if we had one.  Besides, the
> instrument panel is a little bare with just the ASI and Alt.
>
> Thanks
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> Cath
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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 04:47:19 +0000
From: Catherine Conway <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Vario
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Hi John

Yes I got it thanks

I'm trying to decide whether to send the broken winter to Germany for repair
or buy a cheap second hand one.  I've asked winter for a quote to repair and
I though I'd see what else was out there.

Will make a decision soon

Thanks

Cath

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On 06/09/2011, at 2:09 PM, "John Orton"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Cathy,

I sent a message of list about a 80mm PZL vario that I have, not sure if you
got it.

Regards,
John Orton



On 5 September 2011 21:13, Catherine Conway
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> wrote:
Hi All

I'm looking for a cheap, working mechanical vario to replace the one that
died in my Kookaburra.

While it is possible to thermal without one, it would be nicer and more
reliable for the students (and for me) if we had one.  Besides, the
instrument panel is a little bare with just the ASI and Alt.

Thanks

Cath


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Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 05:43:43 +0000
From: Catherine Conway <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspeed indicators
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Hi Mike

Thanks but no electrical system in the kooka (unless you count my handheld
icom)

_Cath


On 06/09/2011, at 11:30 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote:

> At 10:15 AM 6/09/2011, you wrote:
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>> Hi Grant
>> 
>> If you find out I'm interested.  Macca suggested i send my winter with a
broken bottom pivot back to Germany but I was looking first to see if I can
buy a cheap one locally to replace it.  Parafield Instruments couldn't fix
it.  Shame - its a nice one with a log scale.
>> 
>> -Cath
> 
> If you like the log scale Winter take a good look at the B700. This
started as request from a young Dutch pilot. Lots more useful than a Winter.
> 
> Mike
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1978
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:52:39 +0800
From: Daryl Mackay <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspeed indicators
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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On 6 September 2011 10:02, Mike Borgelt
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  At 10:50 PM 5/09/2011, you wrote:
>
>>  Instrument and ease of use/accuracy:
>>
>> When I spoke to the Sales Manager at the DG Factory about the instruments
>> we were fitting to our DG1000S 4-5 years ago, he expressed his opinion
that
>> the the 57mm items were not as accurate or as easy to maintain as the
>> equivalent 80mm version made by the same instrument factory.
>> (Miniaturization in mechanical devices is not as easy/reliable as it may
be
>> in electrical circuitry)
>>
>> I wasn't in a position to change our order and sure enough, when our two
>> brand new 57mm Altimeters turned up, one of them was about 10hP (300ft)
out
>> on the subscale. It was fixed up under warranty but one has to ask the
>> question; was it more susceptible to damage/loss of calibration during
>> transit where-as perhaps the larger version may have travelled better?
>>
>> Of greater concern though, when the chips are down, the bigger instrument
>> might just be that little bit quicker to locate, read and its vital
>> information that much easier to process safely. Not important with the
>> altimeter but perhaps a life saver when it comes to the ASI. This is
>> particularly so with a club ACFT due to the higher utilisation by low
time
>> pilots where the club should be providing the safest
option...particularly
>> where this is also the cheaper option.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Daryl Mackay
>> ______________________________**_________________
>>
>
> If you are having trouble seeing and interpreting the small Winter ASI I
> suggest you get your eyes checked.
>
> The old PZL ASI for gliders apeeared to be a helicopter ASI. It was a
truly
> great and well built instrument.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Just saying it is not ideal to have a smaller than generally accepted ASI
for low time pilots in a club ACFT due general lack of currency on type.

With 10,000+hrs on helicopters, with one ACFT having an odd ball French
military70mm primary attitude indicator requiring a dispensation from the
department, guess they have a problem with it too.

If you can only fit one 80mm instrument into your panel, perhaps it should
be the ASI?

-- 
Kind regards
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:23:35 +1000
From: DMcD <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Airspeed indicators
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>If you can only fit one 80mm instrument into your panel, perhaps it should
be the ASI?

DG gliders certainly recommend exactly this course of action. They
regard the ASI as the most important instrument in the panel and
therefore it should be large.

D


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