Don't tell me - you would also be dissatisfied if HP refused to service your 
486 PC ???? How can they service something they can't get parts for themselves 
? 


Matt

On 13/06/2012, at 14:00 , Terry Neumann wrote:

> In my experience, it is not worth the trouble to contact Garmin in Australia.
> 
> I have a Garmin GPS II+ (a parallel model to the GPS12xl and of a very 
> similar age).   It had been displaying the "Memory Battery is Low" for a very 
> long time.  I had contacted company reps about this at various field days and 
> was told that if I installed a new set of alkaline battery, the memory 
> battery would recharge and all would be well.
> 
> That got me out of their display area, but it didn't work.   The message 
> persisted.  In time and with the advent of faster internet I went looking for 
> other solutions.   Indeed I found that there was an issue with some of the  
> memory backup batteries with the models of that vintage, and that Garmin Aust 
> were rectifying the problem if users retuned the unit to them.  
> 
> I contacted them by email and was asked to post it over to them at nominated 
> address and it would be repaired.    Three weeks later it came back with the 
> message that this model was no longer serviceable due to its age, and 
> advising me to visit a dealer and purchase a newer model.  :-(     
> 
> On that basis I would suggest that you save the expense and time involved in 
> contacting Garmin Aust.   You may quote me as being "dissatisfied with their 
> level of customer service".  (They already know this).  
> 
> I agree that the user interface of the both the GPS II+  and the 12xl units 
> were very good indeed.   We used to have the latter model in our CFS truck.   
>   
> 
> Buying second hand needs to be done with caution because of the known issue 
> with the memory battery, and the fact that they are now getting on in years 
> anyway.    I still use my GPS II+ on the motor bike but it needs to be 
> powered up constantly to retain settings and waypoints.  The MAP 76 series 
> which we now have in fire truck is somewhat similar to the 12 series and 
> works well.   However that too seems to have superseded by colour screen 
> versions which naturally cost quite a bit more.   Garmin seem to supersede 
> their models at a very high rate which makes it very hard to keep abreast of 
> their "features".     I guess there's more money in selling new models than 
> in repairing or updating ones which are several years old. 
> 
> Regards,
> TN
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/06/2012 12:15 PM, Erich Wittstock wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stu,
>> if you contact Garmin customer support they will be able to tell you if your 
>> device can be repaired. I doubt it will be economical.. I had a self 
>> inflicted issue with my 76CS and just bought another unit on ebay.
>> You could always get a second hander:
>> http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Garmin-GPS-12-Handheld-s-GPS-Receiver-/48465169?_refkw=garmin+12&_pcatid=43&_pcategid=156955&_from=R40&_dmpt=GPS_Devices&_dashexp=1
>> ..
>> Erich
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:09 AM, S S <ssm...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone know who still repairs Garmin 12xl  GPS units.
>> 
>> Three or so years back I had link to a place that sent them to Korea or Hong 
>> Kong for internal battery replacement and/or repairs,
>> this was basically a "change-over" service,
>> 
>> but I can no longer find this site, and an internet search turns up one post 
>> in australia back in about 2004.
>> Garmin website has no suggestion they support anything except warranty.
>> 
>> As these units are still very handy  and the user interface is simple and 
>> clear,  I'd like get mine going.
>> It has failed and when "On" button is held, it gives a warning " UPLOAD NOT 
>> PRESENT"  and will not start.
>> So that doesn't look like an internal battery problem. (yes it has had good 
>> batteries installed always, so the internal one was not drained)
>> 
>> Otherwise, 
>> 
>> anyone with a    Garmin 12xl or 12cx   FOR SALE,     please email me at  
>> ssm...@bigpond.com 
>> 
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Stu
>> 
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