Thanks for the information Gavin, I leave the airspace stuff to Reg

Rob Moore


On 20/01/2013, at 1:18 PM, gavin wrigley <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gdday Rob.
> The MBZ is in the bottom (surface to 12500') of the unrestricted 
> airspace...in fact.only the part of it where all the touristy helicopters and 
> skiplanes, etc., operate. They dont seem to want (cannot?) go any higher. The 
> proposal would not affect this 'busy' area. Interestingly enough, Air New 
> Zealand is operating 70 seat turbine aircraft into that area (uncontrolled 
> airspace...just an MBZ) on a scheduled basis!
> Everyone 'down there', including the ANZ pilots, seem to be happy with the 
> MBZ for self-separation.
> Its the higher airspace that CAA are proposing to take. Really only of 
> interest to us and wave flying. If it were controlled then some scheduled RPT 
> flights would be controlled through there I am sure...but have you seen the 
> density of traffic over here? Its not exactly Heathrow.
> I'll ask Trevor Mollard, our GNZ Airspace delegate, to post a link...I'm crap 
> at this stuff.
> Cheers,
> Gavin. 
> 
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Proposed introduction of controlled airspace       
> at      Mount Cook
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 10:23:54 +1030
> 
> Gavin, should we comment about the Airspace above the MBZ. Will that airspace 
> impinge on the gliding in the area.
> 
>  
> 
> Rob Moore
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gavinwr
> Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2013 7:16 AM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Proposed introduction of controlled airspace at 
> Mount Cook
> 
>  
> 
> Yes. Get the facts straight. The helicopter and tourist traffic is not in the 
> airspace being disscussed. there is an mbz that is used by all in the area 
> very successfully to self separate...without any controllers. The petition is 
> about the airspace above this.
> 
> 
> Sent from Samsung Mobile 
> 
> 
> Derek Ruddock <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> The airspace is currently uncontrolled. Aircraft arrange their own separation 
> without the intervention of air traffic control. The system has worked 
> effectively for years.
> 
> By introducing controlled airspace in the area, it would lead to an increased 
> workload on the controllers, with the inevitable result: the area will be 
> closed to some users. (Guess who)
> 
>  
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geoff Vincent
> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2013 10:08 PM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.; 'Discussion of 
> issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Proposed introduction of controlled airspace at 
> Mount Cook
> 
>  
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> Would it not be sensible to establish exactly what CAA is considering by way 
> of controlled airspace changes before rushing off and protesting about it.  
> Derek makes it sound as if Mt Cook is the wave soaring capital of NZ if not 
> the world.  Having flown gliders in that immediate vicinity and experienced 
> the extremely high traffic density (largely from choppers and GA fixed wings) 
> I personally would welcome some form of airspace control.  Lets get the facts 
> first guys.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geoff V
> 
> At 04:20 PM 19/01/2013, Derek Ruddock wrote:
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> The New Zealand CAA is considering a proposal to introduce controlled 
> airspace over Mount Cook.
>  
> This are is probably unique as the only easily accessible uncontrolled wave 
> soaring site in the world
>  
> I would encourage all Australian pilots to email a protest to 
> [email protected] and copy the letter to trevor.mollard at gmail.com
>  
> The closing date for correspondence is Jan 31st, so time is of the essence
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