All true I guess but the insurance is the real issue at the end of the day, they don't have to pay up unless you are TOTLLY within the law!
On 28/03/2013, at 17:41, Terry Home <[email protected]> wrote: > Sounds like you have too many licenses Ron! Just put them all on the table > and you should be right. > > Lucky for you, most Italian gliders are registered in Germany as the taxes > etc are lower. > > My experience has been that you need to get an equivalence in the country of > registration. Italian, French Norwegian. My Gfa white card plus a BGA > 'licence' plus any other bit of paper and some patience resulted in the > approval. > > Norway was easiest, basically a check flight. The more international your > license the less patience you need. The ICAO language on the new Australian > GPL should make it easier. > > Comments indicate that flying a German registered glider is the hardest. > > Terry > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28/03/2013, at 5:40 PM, Ron Sanders <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Stephen, I am pretty sure that you have got the right answer. The >> issue for Aussies who go there in the future with the new GPC will be to get >> that endorsement or validation on their licence from the authority that >> registered the glider they are going to fly, you are right and that is the >> key. The present Blue "license" that the BGA issues is the same kind of con >> that we do (or used to) in that it is not ICAO compliant. What they are >> presently doing i guess is to get it so and then EASA compliant but at the >> mo it is not. >> >> Bureaucracy dontcha love it?? >> >> I rang the CASA the other day to ask why the endorsement "self launching >> Glider" was taken off my ATPL years ago. They said " oh you can still fly >> your Nimbus 3 DM on your ATPL, just don't turn the motor off!!!!!! LOL >> CRY CRY >> >> Another one for you all, >> >> Do I need a bi-annual check in order to fly little aeroplanes, if I have six >> monthly tests and licence renewals renewals at work on my Aus ATPL?????? >> >> >> R >> >> >> On 28 March 2013 14:36, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Ron, >>> >>> This is my understanding from digging into it a few years ago (and getting >>> a French recognition of my PPL**). Hope it make sense to you. >>> >>> 1. To fly an aircraft registered to a particular country you need a >>> matching license* issued by the country of aircraft registration. >>> >>> 2. The "license" can be one normally issued by the particular country or >>> there can be some hoops to jump through where they will recognise a foreign >>> license and and deem that equivalent (to some or all of the national >>> license). >>> >>> 3. If you are legally flying a partcular countries registered aircraft, you >>> may legally fly it into, out of, or inside a foriegn country provided that >>> you meet the customs/border controls etc between the two. >>> >>> 4. There are effectively no controls between most (all?) European states >>> due to an agreement in place for some years (Schengen treaty) >>> >>> So the real answer. Yes, you can fly an Italian glider in a German >>> competition _if_ you have your license accepted by the Italians. >>> >>> *The big issue that we have (had) is that glider pilots in Australia (and >>> UK and NZ) _dont_ (didn't) have a license. At least not one recognised by >>> most foreign countries. >>> >>> **My French endorsement said something along the lines of "can excercise >>> all the priviledges of his license" and as my PPL only had single engine >>> below 5700kg and didn't have any glider endorsement I couldn't fly French >>> gliders even though I have much more time in gliders than power. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> SWK >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." >>> <[email protected]> >>> >>> To: >>> <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> >>> Sent: >>> Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:58:32 +0800 >>> >>> Subject: >>> [Aus-soaring] Glider Pilots License >>> >>> >>> Guys , >>> >>> >>> I have question regards this new license - if i get one and just say the >>> selectors went stark raving mad and i got to represent Australia to attend >>> an international competition in say Germany, And the only glider I could >>> rent or hire was an Itialian one, can i fly it in German airspace?? >>> >>> Interested. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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