Something in US of A today re same.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/national-editorial-foxx-could-push-faa-to-adopt-glider-warning-rule/article/2530218



From: Mike Borgelt 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:06 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Near miss between Air Ambulance and glider - 
vicinity Griffith NSW earlier this year...

At 08:02 PM 21/05/2013, you wrote:

  Interesting.  Just what was on the glider to "Shortly after broadcasting his 
position, the (air ambulance) pilot reported that the aircraft's traffic alert 
and collision avoidance system indicated 'traffic 800 ft below'.

  Sounds like ADSB?



Not necessarily. If the Air ambulance had  TCAS as stated, the TCAS will 
trigger any nearby Mode C transponder even when not in radar coverage and 
generate a warning. So the glider only needed Mode C to be seen by the TCAS.

Actually sounds like the system worked as intended including the radio calls 
and responses.

The other B200/glider incident was more serious in that there were no warnings 
and no evasive actions taken by either party.

Maybe Mode C transponders are a good idea. I hate to think of what will happen 
when some passengers in a regional airliner see a glider pass quickly down one 
side of the aircraft 200 feet away, or the regional airliner gets overstressed 
in taking violent evasive action or worse, actually collides with the glider.

The gliding movement doesn't have a leg to stand on here, what with the 
enthusiastic adoption of Flarm. Ibis and pelicans etc through the windscreen of 
a regional airliner/flying doc/FIFO aren't our problem. The number of KingAirs 
flying around doing these things is growing.

Wombat, TCAS does have a collision algorithm and even generates escape commands.

If you get a transponder make sure it does Mode S and is ADSB ready. No, I 
don't sell them and have no intention of so doing.

Mike

.










  All IFR pilots need to understand that, while there is perhaps one air 
ambulance airborne in G airspace in high summer, there are perhaps 50 gliders 
around there somewhere. Not to mention Ibis, Pelican's, Eagles that glider 
pilots look for.    Look out!!  All of you!!!

  Sent from my iPad 2

  Alan Wilson
  Canberra

  I could have been, but i was not flying out of Temora on that day, nor did I 
ever have ABSB.


  On 21/05/2013, at 15:15, Nelson Handcock <mailto:[email protected]> 
wrote:


    
http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/story/1515109/air-ambulance-in-near-miss/?cs=148
 


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