Operationally I think you may find it would be more suitable than the Radial
version - much lighter aircraft, hence speeds can come down a bit over
original   For you weight and balance types compare the Radial Version
against a turbine version for engine placement, like conversions that also
appear the same are the Air Tractors (AT 401 vs AT 402).  The prop wash
maybe a little challenging to navigate through

 

Now economics of operation may be a small issue:

*at full power (Approx. 600HP more than your standard Pawnee) fuel flow is
somewhere around 65Gals/Hr, and there not too efficient at very low HP
ratings(say 260 Hp) - which probably wouldn't be enough for a safe take-off
(may not be able too)- but would be acceptable to the Glider

*Overhauls, only 3500 TBO in Ag like operations (Typically) cost approx.
90-350K

 

In high density alt (Hot days) the only replacement for a Pawnee will be
another Pawnee

 

If you want to bankrupt your club/operation convince them to buy a
Turbine(Especially Western ones - prices so much steeper)

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
Parncutt
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2013 9:11 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] M18 Dromader

 

I think you will find that this particular aircraft was the turbine (prop
jet) version, definitely not suitable for glider towing! 

 

John Parncutt

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee
Sent: Friday, 25 October 2013 1:03 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] M18 Dromader

 

Pawnee style still seems the best.  Years ago we fitted a release to Peter
Middlebrooks Agwagon for a gliding cpmp and with extra power 300hp would go
up even better but it was far worse than Pawnee for getting down. There was
far less drag on Agwagon thus it would not slow down and the constant speed
prop did not help.  Michaels etug originally had 260HP and was fitted with
constant speed prop but a friend of mine just could not get it down as the
then Pawnee 235 we had at Keepit.  Also John Michell had a 260hp ? Agwagon
and again it was not a success for glider towing..

 

So Pawnee style is the way to go.  By the way a guy at Dalby (only remember
his name as Smoky) bought a cheap pawnee for think 2 years ago for about
$24000.  He was going to put a LS1 engine it but he is no longer gliding and
notice it is again for sale (no price).  If somebody wants a project think
it will go for $20K about and may be worth considering. 

 

Recently saw Bob Wards project on the PIK27 tow plane but is is not a club
project in my opinion.

 

Ian McPhee

 

 .  ;

 

On 25 October 2013 10:59, Nelson Handcock <[email protected]> wrote:

Are many of these used as tugs?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/safety-fears-flagged-earlier-over-make-of-plane-in
-death-crash-20131024-2w4ew.html




Thanks & Regards,


Nelson Handcock
0409 149919 <tel:0409%20149919> 

http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia


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