Or one of these perhaps, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zl%C3%ADn_Z_37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHUIYIStvpE Cheers Paul On 26 October 2013 08:42, john.mcfarlane <[email protected]>wrote: > Operationally I think you may find it would be more suitable than the > Radial version – much lighter aircraft, hence speeds can come down a bit > over original For you weight and balance types compare the Radial Version > against a turbine version for engine placement, like conversions that also > appear the same are the Air Tractors (AT 401 vs AT 402). The prop wash > maybe a little challenging to navigate through**** > > ** ** > > Now economics of operation may be a small issue:**** > > *at full power (Approx. 600HP more than your standard Pawnee) fuel flow is > somewhere around 65Gals/Hr, and there not too efficient at very low HP > ratings(say 260 Hp) – which probably wouldn’t be enough for a safe take-off > (may not be able too)– but would be acceptable to the Glider**** > > *Overhauls, only 3500 TBO in Ag like operations (Typically) cost approx. > 90-350K**** > > ** ** > > In high density alt (Hot days) the only replacement for a Pawnee will be > another Pawnee**** > > ** ** > > If you want to bankrupt your club/operation convince them to buy a > Turbine(Especially Western ones – prices so much steeper)**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Parncutt > *Sent:* Friday, 25 October 2013 9:11 PM > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] M18 Dromader**** > > ** ** > > I think you will find that this particular aircraft was the turbine (prop > jet) version, definitely not suitable for glider towing! **** > > ** ** > > John Parncutt**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [ > mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > *On Behalf Of *Ian Mc Phee > *Sent:* Friday, 25 October 2013 1:03 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] M18 Dromader**** > > ** ** > > Pawnee style still seems the best. Years ago we fitted a release to Peter > Middlebrooks Agwagon for a gliding cpmp and with extra power 300hp would go > up even better but it was far worse than Pawnee for getting down. There was > far less drag on Agwagon thus it would not slow down and the constant speed > prop did not help. Michaels etug originally had 260HP and was fitted with > constant speed prop but a friend of mine just could not get it down as the > then Pawnee 235 we had at Keepit. Also John Michell had a 260hp ? Agwagon > and again it was not a success for glider towing..**** > > ** ** > > So Pawnee style is the way to go. By the way a guy at Dalby (only > remember his name as Smoky) bought a cheap pawnee for think 2 years ago for > about $24000. He was going to put a LS1 engine it but he is no longer > gliding and notice it is again for sale (no price). If somebody wants a > project think it will go for $20K about and may be worth considering. **** > > ** ** > > Recently saw Bob Wards project on the PIK27 tow plane but is is not a club > project in my opinion.**** > > ** ** > > Ian McPhee**** > > ** ** > > . ;**** > > ** ** > > On 25 October 2013 10:59, Nelson Handcock <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > Are many of these used as tugs? > > > http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/safety-fears-flagged-earlier-over-make-of-plane-in-death-crash-20131024-2w4ew.html > > > **** > > Thanks & Regards,**** > > > Nelson Handcock > 0409 149919 > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia**** > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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