Published article link below. http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/10/18/what-can-glider-pilots-teach-the-airline-industry/8629/ On Nov 13, 2013 8:06 AM, "Nelson Handcock" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes - very interesting. Is there a link to the published article available? > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Nelson Handcock > 0409 149919 > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:05 AM, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Send Aus-soaring mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Aus-soaring digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: What can glider pilots teach the airline industry? >> (John Parncutt) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:05:32 +1100 >> From: "John Parncutt" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline >> industry? >> To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Great article Darin, would be fantastic if this concept got some traction >> within the airline industry. >> >> Sadly its up against the "wouldn't catch me in an aircraft without an >> engine" brigade which despite showing complete lack of understanding of >> flight dynamics seems to be prevalent amongst the GA community. >> >> >> >> John Parncutt >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darin >> McLean >> Sent: 12 November, 2013 20:50 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Aus-soaring] What can glider pilots teach the airline industry? >> >> >> >> Im sure most of you will like this article. >> >> >> >> Darin >> >> Tug pilot, RAAF Richmond Gliding Club >> >> =========================================== >> >> >> >> What can glider pilots teach the airline industry? >> >> Could gliding be the low-cost training answer to keep airline pilots? >> manual >> flying skills fresh and sharp? TIM ROBINSON reports from the recent RAeS >> International Flight Crew Training Conference, held on 25-26 September. >> >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/S10-glider-Ste >> mme.jpg<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/S10-glider-Stemme.jpg> >> > >> >> Could gliders hold the key to improving airline safety? (Stemme) >> >> The 2013 >> < >> http://aerosociety.com/Events/Event-List/806/Annual-International-Flight-Cr >> ew-Training-Conference-Upset-Prevention-Recognition-and-Recovery-Training<http://aerosociety.com/Events/Event-List/806/Annual-International-Flight-Crew-Training-Conference-Upset-Prevention-Recognition-and-Recovery-Training> >> > >> RAeS International Flight Crew Training Conference this year was >> noteworthy >> for a number of reasons; its highly international make-up (some 71 of 125 >> delegates were from outside the UK, from 19 countries). Its focus: ?Upset >> Prevention, Recognition and Recovery Training? was rated ?the best and >> most >> productive conference held anywhere on the work to prevent aircraft loss >> of >> control in flight?. >> >> A key point agreed by many (if not all) speakers and delegates at the >> conference was that in the past 15 years, manual flying skills of airline >> pilots has atrophied. Increased cockpit automation, rigid standard >> operating >> procedures, more use of flight simulators and a reduced pool of military >> pilots has conspired to erode basic flying skills in a new generation of >> pilots. This, as AF447 and perhaps more recent incidents, have shown, can >> result in hull losses or be fatal in certain, rare circumstances. Loss of >> control incidents (LOC-I) or ?non-normal? (eg high angle-of-attack or >> bank) >> situations are >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2011/09/28/loss-of-control-i >> catee/5470/<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2011/09/28/loss-of-control-icatee/5470/>> >> thus a major safety issue. >> >> Though the conference detailed the high-level work going on by airlines, >> training schools, manufacturers, regulators and stakeholders, including >> the >> Society?s own <http://icatee.org/> International Committee for Aviation >> Training in Extended Envelopes (ICATEE), an intriguing presentation from >> Captain Sarah Kelman, a safety officer at <http://www.easyjet.com/en/> >> easyJet, highlighted a more simple solution to manual flying skills >> erosion >> ? gliding. >> >> Jet airliners and gliders >> >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/Capt-Sarah-Kel >> man.jpg<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/Capt-Sarah-Kelman.jpg> >> > >> >> Capt Sarah Kelman, easyJet (and British Gliding Association) gives her >> presentation. (Lukas Willcocks) >> >> At first glance, there may be little in common between a glider weighing >> between 500-800kg and the latest single-aisle jet airliners carrying >> hundreds of passengers. One is powered, utilises complex computers, has >> radar, flies higher, faster and is heavier being made out of metals (and >> composites). What does a professional airline crew with the weighty >> responsibility of the safety of their passengers have in common with a >> two-place sport glider, flown for fun? >> >> However, Capt Kelman, an accomplished glider pilot herself as well as an >> airline pilot, observed that there were skills that she maintained in her >> glider that are directly relevant to her day job as an Airbus pilot and, >> which indeed, enhance her situational awareness and ability to deal with >> these non-normal, and recover quickly from, upset situations. >> >> She said that already many commercial airline pilots fly gliders already >> in >> their spare time, because of the direct experience of flight and that >> every >> flight is different and a challenge. (Indeed the most famous example is >> Capt >> Chesley ?Sully? Sullenberger whose gliding experience proved critical at >> the >> right time in the Hudson River in 2009 - saving all 155 people on board.) >> >> Unusual attitude is the norm >> >> Capt Kelman noted that gliding needs a number of skills that may have >> application to the hi-tech airline cockpit ? especially when things go >> wrong. >> >> For example, she pointed out that ?unusual attitudes?, which an airline >> pilot may be fearful of getting into, are second nature for the glider >> pilot. The glider pilot experiences an ?unusual attitude? from the first >> launch as a 40deg winch launch (combined with a semi-reclining seat) means >> the climb (at 3,000feet per minute) feels almost vertical. The pilot also >> cannot see the horizon at this point. The pilot is trained to fly by >> visual >> attitude and airspeed cues, and ignore s >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_illusions_in_aviation> omatogravic >> illusions that can trick the senses. ?They must aviate, aviate and aviate? >> she said. >> >> A ?high alpha? culture >> >> Secondly, she pointed out that glider pilots were steeped in a ?high-alpha >> culture? ? where awareness of the angle-of-attack, the onset of stall and >> steep bank angles were second nature. Flying regularly at the extremes of >> the glider?s flight envelope also reduced the ?startle? factor ? a key >> element in the onset of an abnormal situation where a pilot?s >> decision-making can ?freeze up?. She noted that ?stall and spin awareness? >> are paramount. Steep turns, which in airliner, would result in spilled >> coffee in the cabin and possibly an interview with the airline chief >> pilot, >> are the norm in gliding as the pilot aims to keep within thermals and >> optimise lift. >> >> Comparable handling >> >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/Nimbus-4-Schem >> pp-Hirth.jpg<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/Nimbus-4-Schempp-Hirth.jpg> >> > >> >> Long wing spans gives gliders some similar handling qualities to >> airliners. >> (Schempp-Hirth) >> >> While not powered, the modern sporting glider is a high performance >> vehicle >> and very dynamic, said Capt Kelman. Interestingly she explained the latest >> long wingspan gliders are sluggish in roll and yaw and handle very much >> like >> a 737 or a degraded A320. Wingspan is the key factor in scaling between >> the >> two types of aircraft. Indeed, according to Capt Kelman, the ?surprisingly >> ponderous? handling of long-wing span gliders is a better match for a >> medium >> airliner, than a small single-engine piston type. >> >> Energy management >> >> Glider pilots also bring energy management skills to the cockpit, said >> Capt >> Kelman. Again at first glance, this might seem superfluous ? with engines >> an >> airline pilot can increase or reduce energy simply by moving the >> throttles. >> However, Capt Kelman noted that these skills of managing energy (glider >> pilots only get one chance at a landing!) can also be beneficial to >> airline >> pilots. In particular, regional or secondary airports that low-cost >> carriers >> like easyJet use often have fewer navigation aids available, and may be >> located in mountains or near restrictive terrain. If a pilot has honed the >> art of energy management in gliders, then they can use these skills to >> perform tighter, shorter approaches if permitted, saving valuable fuel and >> time. The ability of an airliner pilot to manage non-precision and visual >> approaches can thus be enhanced by exposure to glider energy management >> skills. >> >> Meteorology awareness >> >> Finally, Capt Kelman outlined that glider pilots also develop an enhanced >> weather awareness and appreciation. While airliners may boast >> sophisticated >> weather radar, wind shear warnings, the ability to rapidly and quickly >> assess weather conditions and to anticipate disturbances is a human skill >> that can be honed by time piloting an aircraft that, without an engine, is >> completely at the mercy of the elements. >> >> Summary >> >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/A320neo-easy.j >> pg<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/files/2013/10/A320neo-easy.jpg> >> > >> >> Could gliding offer affordable upset recovery training to airlines? >> (Airbus) >> >> >> Capt Kelman?s presentation at this high-level flight training and safety >> conference, was a valuable reminder that whatever the weight, size, >> cockpit >> avionics or number of engines aircraft has they all obey the same laws of >> aerodynamics and physics ? enabling certain skills to be valuable whatever >> the type. While normal flight sees the airliner pilot rely on computers >> and >> complex automation her talk highlighted the similarities between abnormal >> airliner situations and normal glider flight. >> >> She also highlighted a critical point for those wondering about the >> expense >> of extra flight training for airline pilots ? its low cost. With winch >> launches costing ?10, Capt Kelman argued that gliding is a very affordable >> way of maintaining hand flying skills. It was also clear that as a safety >> officer for easyJet, she was passing this knowledge and experience on >> within >> her airline ? enhancing its overall safety. >> >> So in the quest for aviation safety and addressing the ?startle factor?? >> is >> the answer to the erosion of hand flying skills to go right back to >> basics? >> >> Buy <http://aerosociety.com/News/Proceedings> Conference proceedings >> here. >> >> In March 2014 the RAeS will hold a Conference entitled >> < >> http://aerosociety.com/Events/Event-List/1168/Aircraft-Commander-in-the-21s >> t-Century-Decisionmaking-are-we-on-the-right-path<http://aerosociety.com/Events/Event-List/1168/Aircraft-Commander-in-the-21st-Century-Decisionmaking-are-we-on-the-right-path>> >> ?Aircraft Commander in >> the 21st Century: Decision-making are we on the right path?? >> >> Related Items >> >> ? >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/10/25/video-art-thompso >> n-red-bull-stratos-lecture/8643/<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/10/25/video-art-thompson-red-bull-stratos-lecture/8643/>> >> VIDEO: Art Thompson, Technical Director >> Red Bull Stratos, Lecture >> >> Watch the inside story of Felix Baumgartner's record-breaking space jump >> from the perspective of Red >> >> ? >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/10/04/come-fly-with-me/ >> 8599/<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/10/04/come-fly-with-me/8599/>> >> Come fly with me ? but don?t expect to make any money >> >> The airline industry is now moving out of survival mode and into a new >> period of growth, but, argues >> >> ? >> < >> http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/09/20/elevating-china/8 >> 556/<http://media.aerosociety.com/aerospace-insight/2013/09/20/elevating-china/8556/>> >> Elevating China ? first Airbus A350 composite part from Harbin >> >> In September, Airbus celebrated the delivery of the first carbon composite >> elevator for the A350 to >> >> One Response to What can glider pilots teach the airline industry? >> 1. >> >> John Burany Says >> >> 22/10/2013 at 18:49 >> >> It has been very obvious that glider training should hav been mandatory >> for >> all pilots, Private or commercial a specially for airline Pilots. The >> liability is huge in any commercial application. >> >> John Burany A.M.E. >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> Des Barker >> Competency Area Manager >> DPSS: Aeronautics Systems >> Tel No. (012) 841-4229/3183 >> Fax No. (012) 349-1156 >> E-mail: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20131113/13aa9323/attachment.html >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 13453 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20131113/13aa9323/attachment.jpe >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 23232 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20131113/13aa9323/attachment-0001.jpe >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 11670 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20131113/13aa9323/attachment-0002.jpe >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 16045 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20131113/13aa9323/attachment-0003.jpe >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1258 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20131113/13aa9323/attachment-0004.jpe >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> End of Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 122, Issue 12 >> ******************************************** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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