From the GFA website: "Flights by Australian Pilots in foreign countries will be recognised as AUSTRALIAN RECORDS. Flights in Australia will stand as NATIONAL RECORDS."
Reference: https://docs.google.com/a/glidingaustralia.org/file/d/0B30o7SKxzo8nYWg3RXFCdFZVcHc/edit?pli=1 I'm hoping to use this myself for flights in PA, USA. Brgds, Casey On 3 Feb 2014, at 19:16 , [email protected] wrote: > Send Aus-soaring mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Aus-soaring digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Astir CS 1000k (Matthew Scutter) > 2. Re: Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 125, Issue 9 (Casey Jay Lewis) > 3. Astir Altitude record & 1000K Flight 1964 (John O'Neill) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:23:25 +1030 > From: Matthew Scutter <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Astir CS 1000k > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <calubygslb+fvzifl6pomnm8d9mupbrrsotkxf2up1hczqnb...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > So, why is it an Australian record? Or do I have a fundamental > misunderstanding of what constitutes a record? > http://www.gfa.org.au/GFA-Sport/records-australia.html > On 3 Feb 2014 21:14, "Mike Borgelt" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> It was on the ridge, Matthew. Some years earlier Karl Striedieck did a >> world O/R record on that ridge .... in a K8. Check time zone for George's >> flight. >> >> Gawler to up north to wherever and back in that moonscape up north should >> break that record. I know several 1000 km O/R were flown in the late 80's >> early 90's in I think mini Nimbus and Ventus A so a D2 or LS8 shouldn't be >> a problem on the right day. >> >> At least one 1000km O/ and almost return wasn't bothered to be claimed. >> The pilot did it for his own satisfaction. It was 1003 km and I know >> because Carol and I did the retrieve. He didn't quite get home. I even took >> my trailer as mine had better fittings and worked better than his. >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 08:18 PM 3/02/2014, you wrote: >> >> I'm interested to know more about the standard class 1000k out and return >> record - 1000.86km in an Astir CS by G.J Vakkur on 8/4/77. As if an Astir >> wasn't impressive enough, in April?? >> Does anyone know where or how it was done? Perhaps someone has the >> relevant AG mag. >> Having done some googling I find an account ("Soaring the bald eagle >> ridge") of a George Vakkur flying 1000k out and return on 7/4/77 in an >> Astir CS in the wave in Pennsylvania, USA which seems like too much of a >> coincidence to me. >> -matthew >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> *Borgelt Instruments* - >> *design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 * >> www.borgeltinstruments.com >> tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 >> mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 >> P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/18514c9d/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:55:07 +0800 > From: Casey Jay Lewis <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 125, Issue 9 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Matthew, > > Another confirmation for George's flight being done on the ridges of > Pennsylvania. He broke four Australian records with that flight and earned > the 9th 1,000km in the USA, 17th in the world. It was flown from Karl > Striedcks Eagle Field as Ridge Soaring Gliderport is in a valley, receiving > the morning light a little later than Eagle Field at ridge top. His > preparation was meticulous and a lot of the early mapping of the ridges > (glider relevant mapping that is) was done by George: 'PGM'; Pre-Google Maps. > ;) > > If you'd like a copy of his account of the from Tom Knauff's book "Flying the > Bald Eagle Ridge" I can send it offline. > > Brgds, > > > Casey > > On 3 Feb 2014, at 18:39 , [email protected] wrote: > >> Send Aus-soaring mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Aus-soaring digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Astir CS 1000k (Matthew Scutter) >> 2. Re: Astir CS 1000k (Mike Borgelt) >> 3. Re: Astir CS 1000k (John O'Neill) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:48:28 +1030 >> From: Matthew Scutter <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Astir CS 1000k >> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> <CALubygQ4Ysp2N=k-1ybmn18zhgogozc0oy13h5yrs5dxjbh...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I'm interested to know more about the standard class 1000k out and return >> record - 1000.86km in an Astir CS by G.J Vakkur on 8/4/77. As if an Astir >> wasn't impressive enough, in April?? >> Does anyone know where or how it was done? Perhaps someone has the relevant >> AG mag. >> Having done some googling I find an account ("Soaring the bald eagle >> ridge") of a George Vakkur flying 1000k out and return on 7/4/77 in an >> Astir CS in the wave in Pennsylvania, USA which seems like too much of a >> coincidence to me. >> -matthew >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/5d595ff2/attachment.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 20:38:28 +1000 >> From: Mike Borgelt <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Astir CS 1000k >> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" >> >> It was on the ridge, Matthew. Some years earlier Karl Striedieck did >> a world O/R record on that ridge .... in a K8. Check time zone for >> George's flight. >> >> Gawler to up north to wherever and back in that moonscape up north >> should break that record. I know several 1000 km O/R were flown in >> the late 80's early 90's in I think mini Nimbus and Ventus A so a D2 >> or LS8 shouldn't be a problem on the right day. >> >> At least one 1000km O/ and almost return wasn't bothered to be >> claimed. The pilot did it for his own satisfaction. It was 1003 km >> and I know because Carol and I did the retrieve. He didn't quite get >> home. I even took my trailer as mine had better fittings and worked >> better than his. >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 08:18 PM 3/02/2014, you wrote: >> >>> I'm interested to know more about the standard class 1000k out and >>> return record - 1000.86km in an Astir CS by G.J Vakkur on 8/4/77. As >>> if an Astir wasn't impressive enough, in April?? >>> Does anyone know where or how it was done? Perhaps someone has the >>> relevant AG mag. >>> Having done some googling I find an account ("Soaring the bald eagle >>> ridge") of a George Vakkur flying 1000k out and return on 7/4/77 in >>> an Astir CS in the wave in Pennsylvania, USA which seems like too >>> much of a coincidence to me. >>> -matthew >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring >> instrumentation since 1978 >> www.borgeltinstruments.com >> tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 >> mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 >> P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/2f906d1a/attachment.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:39:30 +1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time) >> From: "John O'Neill" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Astir CS 1000k >> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <52EF71E2.00000A.04616@USER-PC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Mathew, >> >> That is all correct, the flight took place along the Appenines in the USA. >> We were pretty chuffed about the flight at the time as we had just bought >> our Soth Gippsland Gliding Club's syndicates Astir CS the same month in 1977 >> There is an Astir CS hanging from the ceiling in the Smithsonian Aero & >> Space museum just out side of Washington in the USA. >> However I forget whether it is the same glider or another one that broke the >> altitude record >> >> John O'Neill >> >> >> >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Matthew Scutter >> Date: 3/02/2014 9:19:26 PM >> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. >> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Astir CS 1000k >> >> I'm interested to know more about the standard class 1000k out and return >> record - 1000.86km in an Astir CS by G.J Vakkur on 8/4/77. As if an Astir >> wasn't impressive enough, in April?? >> Does anyone know where or how it was done? Perhaps someone has the relevant >> AG mag. >> Having done some googling I find an account ("Soaring the bald eagle ridge") >> of a George Vakkur flying 1000k out and return on 7/4/77 in an Astir CS in >> the wave in Pennsylvania, USA which seems like too much of a coincidence to >> me. >> -matthew >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/352a3ede/attachment.html> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: image/gif >> Size: 12626 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/352a3ede/attachment.gif> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: image/gif >> Size: 20662 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/352a3ede/attachment-0001.gif> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> End of Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 125, Issue 9 >> ******************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:16:12 +1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time) > From: "John O'Neill" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Astir Altitude record & 1000K Flight 1964 > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <52EF7A7C.000013.04616@USER-PC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The Astir hanging from the ceiling in the Smithsonian Aero Space Museum at > the Dulles Airfield, Washington is the Grob 102 Standard Astir that Robert > Harris > set a World altitude record of 49,009ft in wave of the Sierra Nevada > Mountains in Central California on February 17th 1986. > > Also among the other gliders in the museum is a Sisu 1A that Alvin H.Parker > set a world record 1042 Klms on July 31 1964 from Odessa, Texas. > > I guess the grandaddy of the the museum's gliders is the space shuttle on > exhibition. > > John O'Neill > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/1b4cc89a/attachment.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/gif > Size: 34603 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/private/aus-soaring/attachments/20140203/1b4cc89a/attachment.gif> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > End of Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 125, Issue 10 > ********************************************
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