No it isn't.

GFA employs people, some clubs employ people, glider and equipment manufacturers try to run at a profit and employ people. Some gliding operations (even in Australia) are privately owned and run for profit. It is a business with customers. Some of the businesses are

disguised as non profit "clubs".

Did you bother to read the article at the link? I see certain parallels to gliding.

The only power anyone has in gliding is to sufficiently piss people off so they leave. Arriving at a contest having paid the entry fee, organising time off (maybe buying or hiring a glider and having done the training and practice to be able to fly at a contest - a huge investment)

and having been given a set of rules which you are happy enough to live buy, only to have them changed at briefing on the first day, seems to me to be a good way of ensuring that some won't turn up next year.

Unfortunately gliding in Australia has been VERY successful at getting people to leave, hence the downsizing of the activity over the last 30 years. Don't worry, there is more to come. The current GFA "leadership", to use the term loosely, is bending over backwards to

ensure that those of you who get their gliders maintained by the handful of commercial workshops will find that this is more expensive and difficult than in the past, if indeed it is still available to you. The GFA leadership in the airworthiness area is particularly enthusiastic

about this.

Mike






At 06:02 PM 10/02/2014, you wrote:
Wrong analogy.

Gliding is a volunteer sport.

I am not trying to sell a product to anyone. I do not profit personally, except some satisfaction if I introduce someone to Gliding and they enjoy it sufficiently to stay on and take it up. That unfortunately is rare.

I have no interest in helping anyone achieve their bucket list. They can look for a commercial operator for that.


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Mike Borgelt <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: So you do a deal to buy a car of certain specifications, pay the money and find on the delivery date the diesel you ordered is a petrol and the colour which you specifically chose is not available and the car in front of you is some other colour and if you complain you are told to build your own if you don't like it?

There's an interesting thread on r.a.s. at the moment about the California City soaring operation closing down which you might like to read. Also by co-incidence Karl Denninger this morning has a little story about the scuba diving industry in the US.

here: <http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=228385>http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=228385

There may be some lessons here.

Mike







At 02:57 PM 10/02/2014, you wrote:
The Horsham Week competition is run by the pilots themselves. They set the rules. I expect that the GFA guidelines are respected. However the pilots can replace the scorer, if they re not happy. Only problem is getting a volunteer to take on the job.

First to complain about some else is doing their job nominates them self.

Yours
Peter Champness

On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Simon Holding <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

My understanding is that on day one of the contest, without warning, the CD announced that the Scorer was only interested in scoring according to Australian National rules, or was not prepared to score the contest. It seems the pilots acceded to this ultimatum, thus raising the spectre of duress. I am curious whether this denial of natural justice is a modern GFA interpretation of that doctrine, or, has it been ever thus in gliding contests?



From: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jo Pocklington
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week 2014

Traditionally, Horsham Week has been an entry level comp with pilots required to nominate 3 flying days in advance to allow sharing of a glider for the 8 days. The idea was to attract beginner-pilots to share a club glider and compete against all levels of pilots, up to international standard. For the record, 2014 Horsham Week was scored to new rules. Local Rules (published Dec 13) included the usual: All scoring days will attract 1000 points. This was rescinded at briefing on day one resulting in 3 devalued days in 15m (882, 979, 612) and Open (707, 893, 600) and 2 in Club (821, 600) and Std (882, 612). A pilot who pre-nominated the subsequently-devalued days was therefore disadvantaged, contrary to the spirit of Horsham Week.
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