Alternatively if you want to fly in Europe, get a medical history letter from
your Gp and you can fly to the UK and see an AME there and get a LAPL easa
medical which is less stringent than a class 2.
A DAME here in Australia cannot issue this. With the LAPL medical you can then
fly a glider anywhere in Europe.
However you may need an easa license......LAPL.
This whole thing is a mess and there is no easy way round it, particularly if
you don't have/need a class 2 medical. I think that CASA is trying to keep up
with Easa but Easa is still in a state of flux itself.
I contacted the UK CAA and Next time I go to the UK I will have to do the above
to fly a glider solo.
Jim Crowhurst
0414643900
---- Mike Borgelt wrote ----
Michael,
The Recreational Licence medical to which I think you refer is
actually a heavy vehicle driver's licence medical with some
additional CASA requirements. The actual medical standards are
EXACTLY the same as as a Class 2 medical. If you can honestly answer
the questions and come up to scratch in the medical exam you would
get a Class 2. The difference is that your GP, if he agrees, can do
the actual medical exam, not a DAME and you don't pay CASA to register it.
There are restrictions: single engine, day VFR, weight limits on the
aircraft and only one passenger.
The RAAus medical is a State Driver's licence for passenger cars with
no medical restrictions.
You tell me if any of this makes any sense.
I'm not sure if those commenting on the CASA Board appointments
realise the RAAA and RAAus are different organisations. The latter is
Recreational Aviation Australia (formerly the ultralight federation)
and the former is the Regional Aviation Association Australia
(basically regional airlines and charter).
Mike
At 04:31 PM 1/09/2014, you wrote:
>If you fly over seas you need a medical. If you have no desire to
>fly overseas, don't get a medical.
>
>I think there may be instances of GA pilots, can't pass their
>medical but the drivers licence bench mark allows them to fly/instruct.
>
>Michael
>
>On 1 Sep 2014, at 3:27 pm, Matt Gage
><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Simon,
>>
>>just guessing, but I suspect that if this license was to be used in
>>Australia, it would require a class 2 medical. I suspect there is
>>a fear that having such a license valid in Australia would result
>>in it becoming compulsory and instantly grounding up to 1/2 our
>>pilots. If there is any reasonable possibility of that, then the
>>current situation makes a lot of sense.
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1 Sep 2014, at 15:08 , Simon Hackett
>><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have
>>>just had confirmed separately.
>>>
>>>The Australian CASA Glider Pilot License doesn't allow a pilot to
>>>fly a Glider in Australia.
>>>
>>>SRSLY?
>>>
>>>Its 2014. Why can't we live in a place where the GFA issues (or
>>>authorises) Glider Pilot Licenses for Australian glider pilots to
>>>fly Australian Gliders with (including ... in Australia)?
>>>
>>>I'm not bothered about an underlying requirement to be a GFA
>>>member in good standing (or to be separately authorised by CASA)
>>>if that floats the GFA's boat.
>>>
>>>Rather, I'm talking about the crazy notion that the outcome of
>>>doing everything right in the GFA system isn't an outcome where
>>>one can be a pilot licensed to fly a glider with a license to fly
>>>a glider called a Glider Pilot License - and where such a thing
>>>now exists but it doesn't actually work in the country of issue.
>>>
>>>I actually *have* a US glider license of precisely that form (a US
>>>pilots license with 'Glider' as an endorsement on it). I don't see
>>>that cramping the style of glider pilots in the USA. Quite the
>>>opposite, actually.
>>>
>>>I'm not really interested in how we got precisely here.
>>>
>>>I'm interested in what possible reason the GFA would have, today,
>>>to *not* to support the notion of a Glider Pilot License as
>>>something routinely issued to Australians to let them fly gliders
>>>in Australia - and for that to be the thing that people get issued
>>>with routinely (when, for instance, they achieve Silver C standard).
>>>
>>>Is there actually a valid reason for this state of affairs (as
>>>opposed to 'thats just not how we roll, son...') why this isn't
>>>the case - or why it shouldn't become the case?
>>>
>>>In other words, if I have a CASA issued Glider Pilot License,
>>>what, precisely, makes it unable to be sufficient to be permitted
>>>to fly a glider here (assuming one has a valid and current flight review)?
>>>
>>>I apologise for not having (yet) dug up the shiny new 1st
>>>September-onward regulations that govern the Glider Pilot License
>>>(and as already noted, CASA haven't yet actually published the
>>>application form on their web site either). But do those legally
>>>engaged regulations actually say that you can't use a Glider Pilot
>>>License to... fly a glider with?
>>>
>>>Coming at this cold, honestly, this reads like a Monty Python script :)
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Simon
>>>
>>>
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