Onya Simon.
On 17 September 2014 18:30, Simon Hackett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Gentlepersons,
>
> The body images posted today on the list in an apparent (but in my view,
> misguided) attempt at humour were totally unacceptable, in my personal view.
>
> Yes, the Internet *is* full of this s**t, but no, this list is *not* a
> place to post it. Ever. This list is called 'aus-soaring', not 'misogynist
> humour'
>
> One of the disadvantages of mailing lists (like this one) is that because
> they are email, things posted cannot be 'un-posted'. It is one instance
> where more 'modern' mechanisms like web forums allow for retrospective
> removal of offensive crap - but alas that is not a technical option here.
> Email can't really be un-sent.
>
> What I do have as an option available to me, however, is to change the
> rules (or to be more specific, to define them - as this list has gotten
> along very very well for many years without any)
>
> I much prefer not having to have rules of conduct, on the general basis
> that civilised people should be able to act in in a civilised manner
> without them.
>
> A distinct disadvantage of setting up participation rules is that (some)
> people will then decide to figure out ways to stress-test, skirt, ignore,
> or otherwise circumvent them.
>
> However, I can't let today just pass without doing -something-; and as I'm
> the one who paid for this list to exist, there is at least some moral
> imperative (and, I would argue, moral right) for me to decide to modify the
> environment if it has to be modified.
>
> So here goes:
>
> ** There will be, forthwith, zero tolerance of people who send material
> via the list that causes offence to reasonable people. Such people will be
> removed from the list permanently without further discussion or debate **
>
> That isn't merely limited to rude images. Calling names *can* also hurt
> people. Don't do that either. Don't offend. Just... don't.
>
> To be blunt:
>
> If you want to be a boorish asshole, do it somewhere else.
>
> The definition of 'offence to reasonable people' is entirely up to the
> personal discretion of those who volunteer their personal time to be list
> 'owners' ('owners' here is meant in the technical sense of receiving
> administrative messages and having to perform administrative functions
> related to the list, to make it function).
>
> Note: No warnings, no second chances, and no arguments about the
> definition of what the list owners decide to be something that 'causes
> offence to reasonable people'.
>
> If you want to have an argument about a decision taken by a volunteer list
> owner on this basis, on this list, don't do it here.
>
> Instead, please, start your own list and have that debate there (likely
> with yourself and nobody else, if today's exercise is any guide).
>
> To those offended by the posts today (as I was) - I apologise on behalf of
> those apparently too cowardly to do so themselves, for the offence that
> those people clearly caused to others.
>
> I will note that the definition of being offended is ultimately up to the
> person who *is* offended, not to the instigator of the offence, to decide
>
> The role of the instigator in this circumstance is not to say 'toughen up'
> (or to say nothing), but rather it is for them to learn from what happened,
> to apologise, and then to modify their future behaviour to become more
> urbane about their interactions in shared interaction environments... or
> else to just leave, if they are incapable of, or disinterested in, being
> that caring about the welfare and mental state of others around them.
>
> It is, sadly, not possible to stamp out boorish behaviour in societies.
> Some people are just built that way. I get that. Really, I do. I've been a
> participant in social media for decades - for far longer than the term has
> existed.
>
> I have been the direct target of some pretty rugged personal attacks over
> that time. In some circumstances I have had to recuse myself from some
> discussion spaces for the preservation of my own calm as a result.
>
> But I do not want aus-soaring to be a place where anyone has to feel the
> way that I have been made to feel in the past, in that regard, as the
> subject of either personal attacks or as the unwilling recipients of
> offensive material via this list.
>
> Hence the new list participation rule, as noted above.
>
> Thanks for listening - and I hope that this (somehow) helps more than it
> hinders.
>
> Regards,
> Simon Hackett
>
>
>
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