That would appear to conflict with CASR Part 45 which, as a regulation, is the 
law of the land.

A GFA AN isn't.

Mike

> On 8 Jan 2015, at 5:16 pm, dennis hipperson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Peter,Mike, et al,
> 
> GFA AN 84 1.3 (a) registration marking shall be at least 150mm high, or two 
> thirds of the width
> of the surface.
> 
> No VH needed if "G" registration of if operated in Aus.
> 
> etc,etc
> 
> Dennis
> 
>> On 8/01/2015 7:37 pm, Peter Champness wrote:
>> Mike,
>> 
>> "I'd replace all that verbiage in Part 45 with a requirement to have rego 
>> letters 75mm high for all aircraft both sides of the fin or fuselage and no 
>> necessity to have the VH bit if used inside Australian territory. Too simple 
>> I guess"
>> 
>> Once again you are right,
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:30 PM, Mike Borgelt 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Yeah but close up they'll be able to see they are getting into the right 
>>> glider :-)
>>> 
>>> I'd replace all that verbiage in Part 45 with a requirement to have rego 
>>> letters 75mm high for all aircraft both sides of the fin or fuselage and no 
>>> necessity to have the VH bit if used inside Australian territory. Too 
>>> simple I guess.
>>> 
>>> That page you linked to was for a disallowable instrument that expired in 
>>> 2013. Maybe there is a later re- issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 Jan 2015, at 10:56 am, Niall Doherty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks all. The main thing is that nothing is required on the wings.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike B...minimum 75mm - at the age of most glider pilots they wouldn't be 
>>>> able to read those from the wingtip!
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> ND
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From:
>>>> [email protected] "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in 
>>>> Australia." <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> To:
>>>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> 
>>>> Sent:
>>>> Wed, 07 Jan 2015 17:00:01 +1100
>>>> Subject:
>>>> Re: [Aus-soaring] Registration markings
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Niall
>>>> 
>>>> You are correct that at present there is no requirement for registration 
>>>> markings under the wings on any aircraft below 5700 kg MTOW operated in 
>>>> Australia. The exemption was renewed in 2012 and falls due again at the 
>>>> end of this month: since I am not aware of any formal post-implementation 
>>>> review of Part 45 I would expect that it will be renewed for a further 3 
>>>> years at that time.
>>>> 
>>>> You do need to display the nationality mark "VH-" as well as the 
>>>> registration letters, in letters at least 150mm high that contrast with 
>>>> the background, and you do need the fireproof plate mentioned in the 
>>>> exemption (meeting the requirements of reg 21.820).
>>>> 
>>>> You may also display a contest marking on the vertical fin and rudder (if 
>>>> the registration is marked on the fuselage sides) - many gliders, 
>>>> especially those with G as the first letter, use the last 2 letters of the 
>>>> registration for this, but others display a letter and a number, or two 
>>>> digits - these are becoming quite popular - for instance 36, W3, 4D, Q7, 
>>>> S7 are all in use. These are likely to be administered by the GFA so you 
>>>> should talk to the GFA airworthiness people if you want to  use one of 
>>>> these.
>>>> 
>>>> The convention is that if an aircraft is marked in accordance with the 
>>>> rules, and the4 rules later change, the markings do not require to be 
>>>> changed until the aircraft is next painted or refinished - so if the rules 
>>>> change at the end of the month and you do not have the glider marked yet, 
>>>> you could have to change to meet the new rules, whatever they may be (but 
>>>> that may be unlikely to happen).
>>>> 
>>>> Wombat
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/01/2015 3:00 PM, Niall Doherty wrote:
>>>> All
>>>> 
>>>> My understanding of this page
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD:1001:pc=PC_90236
>>>> 
>>>> is that the only requirement for markings on a glider is letters of at 
>>>> least 150mm high on the sides. None on the undersides of the wings.
>>>> 
>>>> Am I right?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> ND
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
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