I don't know about the size of a Cobra one but the Stemme I work on has a Komet trailer that definitely is not tall enough for a kookaburra wing.
Cath Sent from my iPad > On 9 Jul 2015, at 1:27 pm, John Orton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi > > I have done some work on/with a Stemme S10 trailer, it was the S10 that was a > Camden for many years. I have been told it was the first Cobra trailer built > for an S10. It is a large clamshell Cobra (I think) with a fibreglass top. > > The arrangement is the outer wing panels go in the sides as per standard > method and the heavy wing centre section goes in along the bottom floor. The > Fuselage then sits on a wide dolly that straddles the main wing section Also > the tail plane goes in the roof I think. The trailer came with its own mobile > hydraulic hoist which you had to assemble with bolts and wing nuts. The > hoist/crane was a modified engine hoist with large pneumatic tyres. Those > engine hoists are available from super crap auto for $250 to $300 I think. > > It works for the Stemme however the cord width for a Kookaburra is fairly big > and hence it may be difficult to locate the wing underneath the fuse. > > Regards, > John Orton > > >> On 09/07/2015 7:57 AM, "Mike Borgelt" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Peter, >> >> I'd have a look at the trailer for the Stemme S10. >> >> The one I saw had a kind of crane for the center section built into the >> trailer. Can't remember much else about it as I wasn't that interested and >> it was twenty plus years ago. >> >> Similar problem. Two seat, wide fuselage, three piece wing with heavy center >> section. >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> >> At 08:27 AM 9/07/2015, you wrote: >>> No, The trailer is a modified open flat bed trailer, to which the Glider >>> is sort of bolted on. >>> >>> Getting the wing centre section off was difficult for 3 people. Getting >>> the fuselage off may take a vertical lift crane! >>> >>> A redesign is required so that no one lifts anything. I am still crowd >>> sourcing ideas for that. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Gary Stevenson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Derek, >>> Quite possibly, some might say exactly the same thing about the aircraft! >>> Gliding legend Doug Robinson, (from GCV), called the short wing version a >>> Brickaburra. Was this tongue in cheek I wonder? >>> >>> I think that somewhere along the line I helped to rig a couple of LW >>> Kookaburra's, but this is NOT an experience that lives forever in my memory! >>> Perhaps this is a very good thing! >>> >>> As always, I imagine the secret to rigging this type is to have plenty of >>> man-power, and just one person (who knows exactly how everything - glider >>> and trailer - works), to coordinate things. >>> >>> I wonder what an unbiased person might say about the practically and ease of >>> using Emilis's trailer! Does such a person still exist out there? Also, >>> how >>> well did this trailer tow? >>> >>> BTW Peter C, does your trailer match Emilis's description? >>> >>> Gary >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Derek >>> Ruddock >>> Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2015 7:57 PM >>> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' >>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra >>> >>> Sounds hideous... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [ mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of emilis >>> prelgauskas >>> Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2015 1:04 PM >>> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. >>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra >>> >>> I don't know where GLZ is these days. >>> When I owned it, it had an open trailer ex Southern Cross GC. >>> I then built an enclosed trailer which was sold on to the late Mike >>> Valentine and John Viney. >>> >>> This trailer has (from memory) the tailplane in the roof, the outer wing >>> panels side by side with root ends in the front right corner (looking from >>> the rear open door), the fuselage with rudder at the front end diagonally >>> across the trailer, and the centre section against the left wall with >>> underside facing outward. >>> The centre section is in a cradle at the front trailer end in a rolling >>> frame, so that it can rotate horizontal once the centre section is clear of >>> the trailer rear with its door swung out of the way. The centre section is >>> at a height that clears the fuselage height rolling on the ground. >>> A stand holds the external end of the horizontal centre section. >>> This permits the fuselage to be rolled under, tilted away from the trailer >>> side as the external stand is removed and the centre section mated at this >>> somewhat inclined angle. Once rigged, this part airframe rolls aft away from >>> the trailer and the other lighter parts can be carried and rigged. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 06/07/2015, at 4:04 PM, Peter Champness wrote: >>> >>> > We are attempting to put VH-GRN into service. The trailer is pretty >>> > atrocious and it  is a lot of trouble to unpack and to load the >>> > glider. >>> > >>> > Does anyone have a trailer or have any good ideas re wing stands, >>> > rigging aids etc. >>> > >>> > Peter Champness_______________________________________________ >>> > Aus-soaring mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4365/10184 - Release Date: 07/07/15 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring >> instrumentation since 1978 >> www.borgeltinstruments.com >> tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 >> mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 >> P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> [email protected] >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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