Do we have, or do we want to have, a general OT list? There must be some ppl losing patience with some of these threads.
On 24 February 2010 15:27, mike smith <[email protected]> wrote: > I mean, its failures are not necessarily the fault of the nuclear plants > themselves..... > > > On 24 February 2010 15:25, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> yep, exactly. So don't follow Spain then! >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 24th, 2010 at 3:24 PM, mike smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Spain isn't a poster child for good economy. >> > >> > On 24 February 2010 14:24, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > Nuclear plant in Finland 3-5billion over budget >> > > Siemens Areva Finish govt in law suit love triangle >> > > Areva just bought Multibird wind turbines and Ausra solar thermal >> > > so they're so sure of Nuclear that they're diversiftying into >> > renewables >> > > Spain's SENER built the successful nukes in spain -- has now >> > stopped and is >> > > building molten salt >> > > power tower solar thermal plants 24 hour baseload solar plants >> > > and when they built the nukes they didn't want to own them >> > > As for some other nuke plants in Spain that failed to get >> > commissioned >> > > Spain lost 6 billion euro's >> > > on these. >> > > 6 billion euro's -- no power out the other end -- economic >> > modelling not >> > > required >> > > >> > > bad investment >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Paul Gaske <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:37 AM, mike smith >> > <[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > On 23 February 2010 21:29, Tony Wright <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > >> And you don’t need to go nuclear. Nuclear as it currently >> > > > stands is just >> > > > >> a disgraceful option. The radioactive waste in current >> > nuclear >> > > > reactors with >> > > > >> current technology takes 10,000 years to break down. >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > That would be excluding IFR reactors? Why exclude the best >> > > > technology when >> > > > > you quote figures? >> > > > > >> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor >> > > > > >> > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor> >> > > > > Even more comprehensive are systems such as the Integral Fast >> > > > Reactor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_Fast_Reactor> >> > (IFR) >> > > > > pyroprocessing system, which uses pools of molten >> > > > cadmium<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium> and >> > > > > electrorefiners to reprocess metallic fuel directly on-site at >> > the >> > > > reactor. >> > > > > [9] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor#cite_note-8> >> > > > Such >> > > > > systems not only commingle all the minor actinides with both >> > > > uranium and >> > > > > plutonium, they are compact and self-contained, so that no >> > > > > plutonium-containing material ever needs to be transported >> > away >> > > > from the >> > > > > site of the breeder reactor. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Just to add to the nuclear option; thorium reactors producing 3% >> > of >> > > > the >> > > > waste of a traditional nuclear reactor. Additionally, the waste >> > > > produced >> > > > has a half-life of 500 years. >> > > > >> > > > http://www.abc.net.au/quantum/scripts98/9820/rundown.htm#thorium >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Paul Gaske ([email protected]) >> > > > Software Engineer >> > > > Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com >> > > > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: >> > +61 >> > > > 417 >> > > > 791 916 >> > > > Address Info: http://www.codify.com/AboutUs/ContactDetails >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Meski >> > >> > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >> > you'll >> > get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >> > >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Meski > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
