Hi NOGGERS,

I suggest a quick look at:
https://awardviewer.fwo.gov.au/award/show/MA000041#P1634_133943

Applies (quoted):

For the purposes of clause 
4<https://awardviewer.fwo.gov.au/award/show/MA000041#P102_5334> 
telecommunications services industry means any business:
(a) whose principal function is a telecommunications service carrier;or
(b) whose principal function is a carriage service provider or a content 
service provider;or
(c) whose principal function is the supply of telecommunications services 
including value added telecommunications services;or
(d) whose principal function is incidental,ancillary or complementary to the 
businesses referred to in clauses 
4.2(a)<https://awardviewer.fwo.gov.au/award/show/MA000041#P106_5805>,4.2(b)<https://awardviewer.fwo.gov.au/award/show/MA000041#P107_5876>
 and 4.2(c)<https://awardviewer.fwo.gov.au/award/show/MA000041#P108_5968>;or
(e) which supplies labour to a business in the telecommunications services 
industry on a labour hire basis in respect of any such labour hire employees 
while engaged in the performance of work for a business in the 
telecommunications services industry.
IANAL, but B and D look close “enough” for webhosting companies.  The award 
does NOT cover technologists and engineers.

And of course, read the NES at
https://www.fwc.gov.au/documents/awardmod/download/nes.pdf


TCS


From: AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Rob Thomas 
<[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, 27 August 2022 at 8:33 am
To: Greg Lipschitz <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] modern awards
Oh, and the link to download the actual PDF is 
https://portal.fairwork.gov.au/ArticleDocuments/872/business-equipment-award-ma000021-pay-guide.pdf.aspx
 - summary is $21.94 to $27.75.

--Rob


On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 at 08:30, Rob Thomas 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I feel it's 100% on topic, and whilst I don't have any award employees here in 
au, EXTREMELY useful to know the right one to use when we need it!

Thanks Greg and Nick.

--Rob


On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 at 08:17, Greg Lipschitz 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Hi Nick

I would have said that that is the wrong award as it’s for Retail. (Think shop 
assistant etc)

Perhaps look at
MA000021


Examples of employees covered by the Business Equipment Award include:

  *   technical employees and technicians
https://www.fairwork.gov.au/employment-conditions/awards/awards-summary/ma000021-summary

That seems more appropriate.

Cheers
Greg

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________________________________
From: AusNOG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
behalf of Nick Edwards 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2022 10:05:01 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [AusNOG] modern awards

Hi,
Just been asked to ensure staff are paid at correct rates, I am satisfied they 
are, however one guy has questioned it, he's not making a fuss, but it's got me 
thinking, so I thought I'd ask the community here who surely would know, before 
I go contacting and waiting 3 months for a reply from FWA - before this dude 
just make a fuss :now we have a union run govt ->
This is a webhosting company, only 6 employees, the guy is one of 3 helpdesk 
tech support CSR's,  he questions he is in the correct award, we have him under 
MA000041 and cust contact  level 1 (he has no special qualifications and doesnt 
have server level access, your typical run of the mill tech support dude)

Anyone see this as a problem?
OFF list replies welcome, since I think this might exceed the list charter, to 
which I apologise for in advance.
Ed
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