This is actually a good point.

We trust in SSL, etc,  PKI in general.

This has always been an arms race, this latest Apache “OptionsBleed” for 
example.  Seriously, who would have guessed a .htaccess typo can cause a memory 
leak showing bits and pieces of memory to anyone.

RE: the restaurant analogy, if the supplier gives you food with maggots in it,  
is that now your fault in the Govt’s eye? You sold the dish with maggots, 
here’s a bill.

Same, Apache has a bug, you got hacked because of it.  You get the fine?  Can 
we forward that fine to Apache? Is it really their fault?  Let’s not even 
mention Windows.. in general.  Because you use these products.. are you, 
“shonky”?

I know it is more nuisance than this, I just found Mark’s comment pertinent.



Regards,


Burt Mascareigne
Mobile 0414 450 962   Office (02) 9965 5422
Address Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000
Web http://www.stormnetwork.com.au<http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/>


From: AusNOG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2017 6:34 PM
To: Paul Wilkins <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telecommunications Sector Security Reforms



On 19 Sep. 2017 5:36 pm, "Paul Wilkins" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
"you just have to try your best" goes only as far as the provider's internal 
network and systems. There's no provision for protection of the data plane or 
services delivered to third parties.


Yes there is, and most of it is around 20 years old c.f. HTTPS/SSL/TLS/IPsec.




Kind regards
Paul Wilkins

On 19 September 2017 at 17:25, Eric Pinkerton 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>The State/Taxpayer has never once picked up the bill for a network security 
>incident.

The bill for these things is mostly paid for by the blood sweat and tears of 
those affected. Anyone who had had their identity stolen for example will tell 
you just how painful and costly it is.

Regardless the language of this law is pretty woolly, you just have to try your 
best, and if you get caught doing something shonky you well get asked to stop.

It's not much different to a restaurant with poor hygiene standards getting 
fined for making people sick IMHO.






Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Sep 2017, at 5:02 pm, Mark Newton 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> The State/Taxpayer has never once picked up the bill for a network security 
> incident.


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