Hey All

No, we have not done optical loss testing.  We’re a IaaS and thought instead of 
Etherchanneling 4 x 1GB, we’d go crazy and try 10GB.

We’re not a multimillion $ setup, it is something we wanted to dabble in, as 
all the documents seem to suggest Plug and Play.  I’m not really sure anymore, 
it seems AusNog is just for huge companies only.

Just to clarify, it is in Intel Card with Cisco SFPs connecting to a ZyXEL off 
MM with a 3meter range.

Based on the feed back:

Intel don’t play nice with anything but Intel, but it “should” work.
It’s probably one of the tech cleaning the fibre endpoints with their fingers
And no one has even mentioned ZyXEL, which speaks volumes…

We keep seeing “Mellanox” everywhere.  Looking at going end to end with them, 
new MM cables etc.

Thanks all, it was not quite plug and play as I thought it would be, but we’re 
learning.



Regards,


Burt Mascareigne
Mobile 0414 450 962   Office (02) 9965 5422
Address Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000
Web http://www.stormnetwork.com.au<http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/>
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From: AusNOG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Hudson
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 9:42 AM
To: Mike Taylor <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10GBs

Grab an optical fibre scope while you're at it. It's amazing how dirty your 
cable ends and recepticals can actually be.

And for the love of $deity, make sure nobody's done something as stupid (been 
there, done that - I had an excuse because I was new to working with fibre, the 
major carrier datacentre operators less so - yes, they did it too) as plugging 
SC cables into SCA recepticals or vice versa.

Have you done optical loss testing? Some network gear can tell you directly 
what your tx and rx power levels are.

On 9 Nov. 2017 7:03 am, "Mike Taylor" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

So, yeah, Layer1 first, apply your fibre cleaning tools to the fibres, SFPs, 
patch leads etc.

10gig gets very very twitchy if the cables and SFPs aren't cleaned properly...

Better still, swap out all the patch leads for brand new ones and see what 
happens...

Mike



Mike Taylor

The Total Team


On 08/11/17 15:59, Robert Hudson wrote:
There is no trial and error. Start at Layer 1, and work up the stack.

Correct setup and good logging should resolve it.

There are lots of potential issues. You can cut some of them down immediately 
by selecting hardware on the hypervisor supplier's HCL - they should have good 
drivers for the 10Gbps NICs at that point.

Speed/duplex, frame size, etc, all need to be consistent across the entire 
environment. Get wireshark or an equivalent involved (using a mirror port if 
necessary).

If your hardware and software are all under full support, involve your vendors 
in the issue.

On 8 Nov. 2017 1:23 pm, "Burt Mascareigne" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Noggers

We’re having “fun” with 10GB NICS, Switches and SFPs.

We can’t work out which is causing drop out, packets.. we are somewhat certain 
packets are vanishing into the Ether..

We don’t know which is causing what.

I’m not after troubleshooting, I am curious what people’s view on this.

Do you buy 1 Vendor for all your 10GBs, A-Z, is there some hidden rule about 
mixing vendors, is this all trial and error (and very expensive at best)?

Any recommendations on set ups?  Preferred Vendors, Vender to avoid like the 
plague.

We’re talking Servers to Switch kind of thing.  Not SANs etc.  Good ol’ 
HyperVisor to the switch.

Thanks





Regards,


Burt Mascareigne
Mobile 0414 450 962   Office (02) 9965 5422
Address Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000
Web http://www.stormnetwork.com.au<http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/>
[01-300x70]


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