Intel NICs are very twitchy indeed about non-Intel optics. If you're using 
non-Intel optics you typically need to tell the driver to enable unsupported 
optic mode. 

Since you say some packets are disappearing rather than the link not coming up 
at all, it's probably not this, but I'd strongly suggest reviewing the 
*specific* Intel NIC list of compatibility, and checking whether the Cisco 
module you're using is within parameters of the NIC. There's a lot that can go 
wrong here - thermal and power budgets are a problem for many optics in 
compute. 

As others have said, DACs might be the way to go but be ware that many switch 
vendors can't or don't test against the zillions of DACs available in the 
market. 

If you're running a 10G optical switch, forget 10GBASE-T SFP+ as the power 
budget for electrical is a nightmare. On the other hand you can now find 
10GBASE-T switches available. 

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Burt Mascareigne <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hey All
>  
> No, we have not done optical loss testing.  We’re a IaaS and thought instead 
> of Etherchanneling 4 x 1GB, we’d go crazy and try 10GB.
>  
> We’re not a multimillion $ setup, it is something we wanted to dabble in, as 
> all the documents seem to suggest Plug and Play.  I’m not really sure 
> anymore, it seems AusNog is just for huge companies only. 
>  
> Just to clarify, it is in Intel Card with Cisco SFPs connecting to a ZyXEL 
> off MM with a 3meter range. 
>  
> Based on the feed back:
>  
> Intel don’t play nice with anything but Intel, but it “should” work.
> It’s probably one of the tech cleaning the fibre endpoints with their fingers
> And no one has even mentioned ZyXEL, which speaks volumes…
>  
> We keep seeing “Mellanox” everywhere.  Looking at going end to end with them, 
> new MM cables etc.
>  
> Thanks all, it was not quite plug and play as I thought it would be, but 
> we’re learning.
>  
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
>  
> Burt Mascareigne
> Mobile 0414 450 962   Office (02) 9965 5422
> Address Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000
> Web http://www.stormnetwork.com.au
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>  
> From: AusNOG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert 
> Hudson
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2017 9:42 AM
> To: Mike Taylor <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10GBs
>  
> Grab an optical fibre scope while you're at it. It's amazing how dirty your 
> cable ends and recepticals can actually be.
>  
> And for the love of $deity, make sure nobody's done something as stupid (been 
> there, done that - I had an excuse because I was new to working with fibre, 
> the major carrier datacentre operators less so - yes, they did it too) as 
> plugging SC cables into SCA recepticals or vice versa.
>  
> Have you done optical loss testing? Some network gear can tell you directly 
> what your tx and rx power levels are.
>  
> On 9 Nov. 2017 7:03 am, "Mike Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote:
> So, yeah, Layer1 first, apply your fibre cleaning tools to the fibres, SFPs, 
> patch leads etc.
> 
> 10gig gets very very twitchy if the cables and SFPs aren't cleaned properly...
> 
> Better still, swap out all the patch leads for brand new ones and see what 
> happens...
> 
> Mike
> 
>  
> 
> Mike Taylor
> The Total Team
>  
> On 08/11/17 15:59, Robert Hudson wrote:
> There is no trial and error. Start at Layer 1, and work up the stack.
>  
> Correct setup and good logging should resolve it.
>  
> There are lots of potential issues. You can cut some of them down immediately 
> by selecting hardware on the hypervisor supplier's HCL - they should have 
> good drivers for the 10Gbps NICs at that point.
>  
> Speed/duplex, frame size, etc, all need to be consistent across the entire 
> environment. Get wireshark or an equivalent involved (using a mirror port if 
> necessary).
>  
> If your hardware and software are all under full support, involve your 
> vendors in the issue.
>  
> On 8 Nov. 2017 1:23 pm, "Burt Mascareigne" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Noggers
>  
> We’re having “fun” with 10GB NICS, Switches and SFPs.
>  
> We can’t work out which is causing drop out, packets.. we are somewhat 
> certain packets are vanishing into the Ether..
>  
> We don’t know which is causing what.
>  
> I’m not after troubleshooting, I am curious what people’s view on this. 
>  
> Do you buy 1 Vendor for all your 10GBs, A-Z, is there some hidden rule about 
> mixing vendors, is this all trial and error (and very expensive at best)?
>  
> Any recommendations on set ups?  Preferred Vendors, Vender to avoid like the 
> plague.  
>  
> We’re talking Servers to Switch kind of thing.  Not SANs etc.  Good ol’ 
> HyperVisor to the switch.
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
>  
> Burt Mascareigne
> Mobile 0414 450 962   Office (02) 9965 5422
> Address Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000
> Web http://www.stormnetwork.com.au
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