CoC, T&C's, charters etc are words on paper. There's other words on
bits of paper, that hold more weight than anything we say or do here,
yet are still ignored.
If people aren't afraid to outright break the law, then a simple CoC
(which basically affirms common decency) wont do much to help.
Calling these people out (appropriately / to the authorities) and
having them dealt with in that manner, causing real world consequences,
certainly can. Harboring a safe environment where victims are not afraid
to report and seek help, also can.
On 01/10/18 13:26, Peter Tonoli wrote:
To keep on charter, perhaps we need to look at preventing these issues
in future?
Looking at the AusNOG website, and the AusNOG 2018 conference sites -
they appear, through my cursory look, to be devoid of a code of
conduct, or similar. Perhaps, as a community, a good start would be
implementing a Code of Conduct - an example I can think of is Linux
Australia's, at https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/ .
Cheers,
Peter.
Quoting Robert Hudson <[email protected]>:
I tend to agree with Paul - if the list charter means we can't discuss a
bloody serious issue about how some of our community behave (and the
fact
that this behaviour is inappropriate), then I don't think I want to
be on
this list any more.
Sweep this sort of thing under the carpet (and make no mistake, that's
EXACTLY what the "STOP THREAD" was doing), and you're just enabling
it to
continue.
If such behaviour was reported within the ITPA membership and the
accusation was found to be true, the perpetrator would be excluded
from the
organisation. Period.
I guess we find ourselves at a point where we find out what sort of
group
AusNOG wants to be.
Regards,
Robert
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Paul Wilkins <[email protected]>
wrote:
Where large chunks of our lives are winding up on line, I find it
problematic where discussion of endemic problems get ruled outside the
terms of service. It leaves the problem to fester. Discussion should be
legitimate where there's no names, so no libel.
Also, the police will only involve themselves in instances of criminal
behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they
won't be interested.
Kind regards
Paul Wilkins
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
*Bevan*,
Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious matter and I
encourage you to raise these issues with the appropriate
authorities. The
police are in the best position to deal with such allegations. If
I can
be of any assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me directly,
off-list.
*To the members of the list* - I’m sure any of you would agree that
any
form of sexual harassment is not acceptable. As such, there is no
reason
for you to follow-up to Bevan’s post. There is nothing to debate
here.
Please note that this is a STOP THREAD post. Please see the list
charter
below if you do not understand your obligations with relation to a
STOP
THREAD.
https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
David
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