Sometimes it helps to have something to point to when members forget that the correct response to this is "take action" rather than "stop discussion".
James On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, at 13:30, Matt Harlum wrote: > Do people really need a Code of Conduct to tell them not to be sex offenders? > > > On 1 Oct 2018, at 1:26 pm, Peter Tonoli <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > To keep on charter, perhaps we need to look at preventing these issues in > > future? > > > > Looking at the AusNOG website, and the AusNOG 2018 conference sites - they > > appear, through my cursory look, to be devoid of a code of conduct, or > > similar. Perhaps, as a community, a good start would be implementing a Code > > of Conduct - an example I can think of is Linux Australia's, at > > https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/ . > > > > Cheers, > > Peter. > > > > > > Quoting Robert Hudson <[email protected]>: > > > >> I tend to agree with Paul - if the list charter means we can't discuss a > >> bloody serious issue about how some of our community behave (and the fact > >> that this behaviour is inappropriate), then I don't think I want to be on > >> this list any more. > >> > >> Sweep this sort of thing under the carpet (and make no mistake, that's > >> EXACTLY what the "STOP THREAD" was doing), and you're just enabling it to > >> continue. > >> > >> If such behaviour was reported within the ITPA membership and the > >> accusation was found to be true, the perpetrator would be excluded from the > >> organisation. Period. > >> > >> I guess we find ourselves at a point where we find out what sort of group > >> AusNOG wants to be. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Robert > >> > >>> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Paul Wilkins <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Where large chunks of our lives are winding up on line, I find it > >>> problematic where discussion of endemic problems get ruled outside the > >>> terms of service. It leaves the problem to fester. Discussion should be > >>> legitimate where there's no names, so no libel. > >>> > >>> Also, the police will only involve themselves in instances of criminal > >>> behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they > >>> won't be interested. > >>> > >>> Kind regards > >>> > >>> Paul Wilkins > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *Bevan*, > >>>> > >>>> Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious matter and I > >>>> encourage you to raise these issues with the appropriate authorities. > >>>> The > >>>> police are in the best position to deal with such allegations. If I can > >>>> be of any assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me directly, > >>>> off-list. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *To the members of the list* - I’m sure any of you would agree that any > >>>> form of sexual harassment is not acceptable. As such, there is no > >>>> reason > >>>> for you to follow-up to Bevan’s post. There is nothing to debate here. > >>>> Please note that this is a STOP THREAD post. Please see the list charter > >>>> below if you do not understand your obligations with relation to a STOP > >>>> THREAD. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> David > >>>> ... > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> AusNOG mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> AusNOG mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > >>> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > AusNOG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
