As somebody who lives in one of the areas that gets affected a lot, and that 
the article was mostly written about I believe, I can tell you that there are a 
lot more NTD’s getting damaged than there was ADSL modems.
 
I can’t explain it either, it shouldn’t be happening, however people with surge 
protected power boards are copping it as well, it’s like it’s coming through 
the copper, maybe due to the nature of the DPU and other people connected, 
perhaps it’s transiting the DPU and damaging other NTD’s, I don’t know, but the 
DPU’s seem to be unaffected, only NTD’s, so it could be a design issue.
 
I don’t use NBN myself, however our local facebook page lights up whenever 
there is a storm approaching or upon us, with people talking about unplugging 
NTD’s etc. and then of course afterwards when people complain about no 
internet, and then the complaints that it’s taken NBN 5 days to get there and 
replace it 
 
Many people have been told by the provider that NBN is looking at NTD’s which 
handle power spikes better, I don’t know what they are actually doing but 
that’s what people are being told.
 
The NBN techs will also not leave spare equipment, this makes sense of course, 
but I know the question has been asked many times in our community.
 
I believe the article came about due to many people complaining to local MP’s 
about the issues and obviously the media has picked it up as well.
 
Regards
Paul
 
From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Brendan Ord
Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:36 AM
To: Damien Gardner Jnr <rend...@rendrag.net>
Cc: aus...@ausnog.net <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Lightning and FTTC - is it really this bad?
 
Damien, I agree with you.  Lightning is going to be causing the same issues it 
always caused regardless of the technology; telegram, POTS, ADSL or VDSL from 
the curb or cabinet – nothing’s changed because there’s still copper conductors 
in the ground.
 
I smell a lot of agenda pushing and bias in this article and that’s about all 
it is.
 
Although, maybe a more important topic mentioned in the article – NBN won’t 
allow these businesses to buy a cold spare?!?
 
 
 Brendan Ord
 
 
From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net 
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr
Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2021 9:11 AM
To: Troy Kelly <t...@troykelly.com mailto:t...@troykelly.com>
Cc: aus...@ausnog.net mailto:aus...@ausnog.net <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net 
mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Lightning and FTTC - is it really this bad?
 
Yeah it really didn’t make sense to me. How is a product which only has a TINY 
bit of copper compared to FTTN and indeed the older POTS network, SO much more 
susceptible to lightning strikes?  I mean, it’s Fibre to the pit, and then one 
breakout box is running four(?) homes, with maybe 100-150m total of copper 
between all four homes’ runs?  Unless lightning is hitting one of those houses, 
or the people in those houses are stupid enough to NOT be running surge 
protection on their gear (seriously, wtf? Are there really people without surge 
protection these days? It’s been around for 30 years, and is on almost every 
power board Bunnings sell..), I don’t see how lightning can be an issue??
 
Something doesn’t make sense here..
 
—DG
 
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 8:25 am, Troy Kelly <t...@troykelly.com 
mailto:t...@troykelly.com> wrote:
Yes Mark, I've heard of it ;)
 
I guess my point was - why is (is it?) FTTC somehow apparently more susceptible 
to discharge issues than POTS was/is. Perhaps I am getting the wrong impression 
from the article.
 
Regards, Troy
Brevity is the elixir of life.
Father Hector McGrath, Pixie 2020
 
 
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:15 PM, Mark Smith <markzzzsm...@gmail.com 
mailto:markzzzsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Heard of ADSL? POTS?
 
If the Internet was only meant to run over fibre, there wouldn't have been any 
ARPANET or Internet before the late 1980s or early 1990s.
 
Fun fact, RFC1 was written on a typewriter in a bathroom in 1969, because Steve 
didn't want to disturb his flatmates.
 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1
 
BCP89.
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