Would agree with Cope, have moved entire racks of kit between dcs without 
issue.Couriers?  Dropped a san, didn't say anything, we  noticed when when 
there was 5mm gap between the drive bay and chassis that wasn't there before.We 
have also used pack and send with success for random kit. With foam in place 
it's pretty difficult for even a baggage handler to damage.-JSent from my Galaxy
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8/12/23  05:59  (GMT+08:00) To: Joseph Goldman <[email protected]> Cc: 
[email protected] Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance try cope 
sensitive freightOn Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 08:32, Joseph Goldman 
<[email protected]> wrote:




Whilst usually I agree with just load it up and drive it, this particular trip 
is more like 1500km each way, so it will cost 4 full days in travel return trip 
to do so.I do love a good road trip though :D thoughts @Rhys? :P

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Courier insurance



Seasons’ Greetings Noggers,
 
If I have to use airlines to move equipment, I check it in as oversized 
baggage. Unfortunately, insurance for accompanied luggage is not great (usually 
non-existent) for the reasons Jennifer has
 shown.
Make sure equipment is boxed well. I’ve sat on the plane and watched baggage 
handlers throw boxes marked fragile onto the baggage cart.
 
Carriers we’ve learned to avoid are TNT (damaged equipment), Couriers Please 
(late/failed pickups/late deliveries) and Parcel to Courier (damaged equipment).
 
We’ve had good results with Aramex and Fedex. Look at TransDirect if you prefer 
a broker and multiple options.
 
In November we had new HP equipment for deployment at SY4.
I had it shipped to my home, tested a basic config, loaded it into my car and 
drove 850klms then unloaded at SY4 where it was installed and commissioned.
 
IMHO, the best way to get equipment safely to the DC is via car.
 

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Sadly I did this and ended up in a very bad situation.

 


I had some gear shipped to me in QLD, and was bringing back to me in Vic for 
the following weekend.


 


Saw it off at Brisbane all bagged and tagged.


 


Then in Melbourne, virgin says “we placed it on belt 2, we aren’t going 
responsible for you not picking it up”. Efforts to explain to the airline that 
no I didn’t pick it up, and that it never arrived on the belt the same as 
everything
 else.


 


They literally just ignored me and left me high and dry. Police said they could 
not do anything as no indication it was stolen, airport refused to check cctv 
as police didn’t do report, and baggage services kept shirking responsibility.


 


After lots of backward and forward, we just had to give up.


 


The vendor on the other hand was very understanding and it cost me as per our 
agreement, which was money I didn’t want to burn but sadly, had no choice 
because I needed to keep to my agreement. 


 


Overall, don’t trust the airlines. If you check it, make sure it’s got an air 
tag or something to track it down.


 


Jen 



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On 7 Dec 2023, at 23:14, Nathan Brookfield <[email protected]> 
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 After many issues over the years with shipping equipment especially TNT, if 
I’m going anyway, I will always take it and check it in on the flight, in a lot 
of cases, it’s cheaper and yes, it might get thrown around a little bit, but it
 doesn’t matter what courier company you use it’s going to be a lot safer…. 


 





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On 7 Dec 2023, at 22:01, Rhys Hanrahan <[email protected]> wrote:


 
Hi All,
 
Just wondering how people handle the situation of transit insurance for 
domestic shipping of high value equipment? I am looking at options for TNT’s 
transit warranty and 1) It’s pricey and will cost thousands to get a warranty 
2) They max
 out coverage at $40K it seems. I suppose we might be able to work around that 
with multiple separate shipments.
 
We’ve got new Cisco gear worth 70-90K that we are shipping to one of our 
offices for configuration, then from NSW to a customer’s site in far north QLD. 
I’m not really keen on just trusting the gear won’t be damaged, so I’m looking 
for
 safe options to courier the equipment – I’m wondering if anyone is aware of 
good options for this sort of situation?
 
We are also attending site so it’s possible that we could just check the boxes 
in as luggage, but I’m not sure if I trust baggable handlers any better. 
Typically we’d just ship directly to site, but we don’t really want to 
configure and
 test it entirely onsite as that has it’s own challenges in this case.
 
Appreciate any suggestions. Thanks!
 

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