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Enclosed are the minutes from the Monday meeting this week
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 15th July 2019 Teleconference Austin-949 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 17th July 2019
Attendees:
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
Andrew Josey, The Open Group (partial)
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
* General news
Andrew noted that he was calling for input for talking points around
UNIX@50 years old.
A page is available in the etherpad for input
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/unix-at-50
* Outstanding actions
(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)
Bug 1220: Add an API to query the name of a locale category of a locale object
OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1220
Action: Eric to ask if The Open Group is willing to sponsor this interface.
* Current Business
Bug 1234: in most shells, backslash doesn't have two meaning wrt pattern
matching OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1234
We agreed this item is still undergoing some discussions on the reflector and
we will
revisit status at the next meeting.
Bug 1253: clarify that "alternative time" means tm_isdst is positive Accepted
as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1253
This item is tagged for TC3-2008.
Change all uses of "Daylight Savings" to "Daylight Saving", everywhere
in POSIX:
Page 425 lines 14450-14452:
Change "Daylight Savings" to "Daylight Saving"
Page 729 line 24832:
Change "Daylight Savings" to "Daylight Saving"
Page 1331 lines 44310-44312:
Change "Daylight Savings" to "Daylight Saving"
Page 2047 line 65622
Change "daylight savings" to "daylight saving"
Page 2185 line 69922:
Change "Daylight Savings" to "Daylight Saving"
Drop the use of the term "alternative time" in the description of
the TZ environment variable, and stick with "Daylight Saving Time"
as used in the C standard.
In section 8.3 Other Environment Variables - TZ, in the "std and
dst" item, change page 179 line 5891 from:
the alternative (dst -such as Daylight Savings Time) timezone.
Only std is required; if dst is missing, then the alternative
time does not apply in this locale.
to:
the Daylight Saving (dst) timezone. Only std is required; if
dst is missing, then Daylight Saving Time does not apply in
this locale. Note: The usage of the terms "Standard Time" and
"Daylight Saving Time" is not necessarily related to any
legislated timezone.
In the same section's "offset" item, change page 179 line 5916 from:
If no offset follows dst, the alternative time is assumed to
be one hour ahead of standard time.
to:
If no offset follows dst, Daylight Saving Time is assumed to
be one hour ahead of standard time.
In the same section's "rule" item, change page 180 line 5925 from:
Indicates when to change to and back from the alternative time.
to:
Indicates when to change from standard time to Daylight Saving
Time, and when to change back.
Also, change line 5928 from:
where the first date describes when the change from standard
to alternative time occurs and the second date describe when
the change back happens.
to:
where the first date describes when the change from standard
to Daylight Saving time occurs and the second date describes
when it ends; if the second date is specified as earlier in the
year than the first, then the year begins and ends in Daylight
Saving time.
Bug 1252: Extend TZ to allow times outside 00-24 range, permanent DST Accepted
as Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1252
This item is tagged for Issue 8.
On page 280 line 5945 section 8.3, change:
The time has the same format as offset except that no leading
sign ('-' or '+') is allowed.
to:
The time has the same format as offset except that the hour
can range from zero to 167. If preceded by a '-', the time
shall count backwards before midnight. For example, "47:30"
stands for 23:30 the next day, and "-3:30" stands for 20:30
the previous day.
Daylight Saving Time is in effect all year if it starts January
1 at 00:00 and ends December 31 at 24:00 plus the difference
between Daylight Saving Time and standard time, leaving no room
for standard time in the calendar. For example,
TZ='EST5EDT,0/0,J365/25' represents a time zone that observes
Daylight Saving Time all year, being 4 hours west of UTC with
abbreviation "EDT".
Bug 661: gramar of TZ variable is insufficient for describing Israel
Daylight-saving time Duplicate of 1252
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=661
Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR
list" OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
This item will be continued on the next call
Next Steps
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The next calls are on:
July 18 2019 (Thursday)
This call will be for 90 minutes.
July 15 2019 (Monday)
This call will be for 60 minutes.
Apologies in advance:
Geoff Clare, 2019-07-22
Andrew Josey, 2019-07-22, 2019-07-25
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