All
Enclosed are the minutes from the meeting held yesterday
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 5 September 2019 Teleconference Austin-965 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 6th September 2019
Attendees:
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
Joerg Schilling, FOKUS Fraunhofer
Eric Blake, Red Hat, Open Group OR
* General news
Andrew noted that he would start working with his administration
team on processing the certificates of appreciation.
Joerg raised an issue about the gettext utilitity, where he is
starting to define a proposal. This was discussed.
We also discussed whther we should go back to one call a week,
although it was noted that some very tough issues remain open.
No decision was taken yet.
* Outstanding actions
(Please note that this section has been flushed to shorten the minutes -
to locate the previous set of outstanding actions, look to the minutes
from 13th June 2019 and earlier)
Bug 1254: "asynchronous list" description uses "command" instead of "AND-OR
list" OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1254
Action: Joerg to investigate how his shell behaves.
* Current Business
Bug 1022: error indicator for encoding errors in fgetwc(3) Rejected
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1022
In view of the addition in C17, we believe no change is needed in
POSIX and this bug can be closed.
Bug 701: unget[w]c() and file position after discarding push back Accepted as
Marked
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=701
This item is tagged for TC3-2008.
On page 2193 line 70128 section ungetc(), change:
A successful call to ungetc() shall clear the end-of-file
indicator for the stream. The value of the file-position indicator
for the stream after all pushed-back bytes have been read, or
discarded by calling fseek(), fseeko(), fsetpos(), or rewind()
(but not fflush()), shall be the same as it was before the bytes
were pushed back. The file-position indicator is decremented
by each successful call to ungetc(); if its value was 0 before
a call, its value is unspecified after the call.
to:
A successful call to ungetc() shall clear the end-of-file
indicator for the stream. The file-position indicator for the
stream shall be decremented by each successful call to ungetc();
if its value was 0 before a call, its value is unspecified after
the call. The value of the file-position indicator after all
pushed-back bytes have been read shall be the same as it was
before the bytes were pushed back.
On page 2193 line 70143 section ungetc(), change RATIONALE from "None" to:
The C standard includes the text "The value of the file position
indicator for the stream after reading or discarding all
pushed-back characters shall be the same as it was before the
characters were pushed back." POSIX.1 omits "or discarding"
from this because it is redundant - in the C standard the
discarding is done by file positioning functions and does not
affect the position set by those functions. In particular, a
relative seek using fseek() or fseeko() with SEEK_CUR adjusts
the position relative to the position on entry to the function,
not the position after the pushed-back bytes have been discarded.
POSIX.1 also requires fflush() to discard pushed back bytes in
situations where the C standard says the behavior of fflush()
is undefined.
On page 2195 line 70175 section ungetwc(), change:
A successful call to ungetwc() shall clear the end-of-file
indicator for the stream. The value of the file-position indicator
for the stream after all pushed-back characters have been read,
or discarded by calling fseek(), fseeko(), fsetpos(), or rewind()
(but not fflush()), shall be the same as it was before the
characters were pushed back. The file-position indicator is
decremented (by one or more) by each successful call to ungetwc();
if its value was 0 before a call, its value is unspecified after
the call.
to:
A successful call to ungetwc() shall clear the end-of-file
indicator for the stream. The file-position indicator for the
stream shall be decremented (by one or more) by each successful
call to ungetwc(); if its value was 0 before a call, its value
is unspecified after the call. The value of the file-position
indicator after all pushed-back characters have been read shall
be the same as it was before the characters were pushed back.
On page 2195 line 70193 section ungetwc(), change RATIONALE from "None" to:
The C standard includes the text "The value of the file position
indicator for the stream after reading or discarding all
pushed-back wide characters shall be the same as it was before
the wide characters were pushed back." POSIX.1 omits "or
discarding" from this because it is redundant - in the C standard
the discarding is done by file positioning functions and does
not affect the position set by those functions. In particular,
a relative seek using fseek() or fseeko() with SEEK_CUR adjusts
the position relative to the position on entry to the function,
not the position after the pushed-back wide characters have
been discarded. POSIX.1 also requires fflush() to discard pushed
back wide characters in situations where the C standard says
the behavior of fflush() is undefined.
Bug 1234: in most shells, backslash doesn't have two meaning wrt pattern
matching OPEN
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1234
This was discussed and will be continued next time. See
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/bug1234
Next Steps
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The next calls are on:
September 9 2019 (Monday)
This call will be for 60 minutes.
September 12 2019 (Thursday)
This call will be for 90 minutes.
Apologies in advance:
Andrew Josey, 2019-09-09 (maybe)
Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)
Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.
http://austingroupbugs.net
An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as
below:
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/201x-mm-dd
username=posix password=2115756#
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