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Enclosed are the minutes of the Thursday meeting this week
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 22nd June 2023 Teleconference Austin-1321 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 23rd June 2023
Attendees:
Don Cragun, IEEE PASC OR
Nick Stoughton, Logitech/USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR (partial)
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Mark Ziegast, SHware Systems Dev.
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Eric Ackermann, HPI, University of Potsdam
Apologies
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Tom Thompson, IEEE
* General news
We agreed that there will be no calls on the week commencing July 3.
* Current Business
Note for issue resolution all items are tagged for Issue 8 unless
noted otherwise or disposition is reject or duplicate.
Bug 1696: Effect of -s when no work needs to be done Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1696
We revisited this item.
The "shall write a message to standard output indicating that no
action was taken" has been changed to "may write a message to
standard output indicating that no action was taken". This allows
both the current behavior of GNU make and the current behavior of
BSD and Solaris make.
Change in make STDOUT section on P3107, L104627-104633:
The make utility shall write all commands to be executed to
standard output unless the −s option was specified, the command
is prefixed with an at-sign, or the special target .SILENT has
either the current target as a prerequisite or has no prerequisites.
If make is invoked without any work needing to be done, it shall
write a message to standard output indicating that no action
was taken. If the −t option is present and a file is touched,
make shall write to standard output a message of unspecified
format indicating that the file was touched, including the
filename of the file.
to:
If make is invoked without any work needing to be done, it may
write a message to standard output indicating that no action
was taken. Otherwise, the make utility shall write all commands
to be executed (and the filenames of files touched for the -t
option in a message of unspecified format) to standard output
unless the −s option was specified, the command is prefixed
with an at-sign, or the special target .SILENT has either the
current target as a prerequisite or has no prerequisites.
Bug 1697: Consider replacing out-of-date with not up-to-date Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1697
In make rationale on P3131, L105687 after:
The HP-UX implementation of make treated it as out-of-date.
add a new sentence:
Note that up-to-date and out-of-date are antonyms.
In make future directions add a new paragraph after P3133, L105820.
A future version of this standard may require that a target
with a prerequisite with an identical timestamp is considered
out-of-date.
Bug 1698: Replace 'a target' with 'the target'
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1698
Accepted, resolved, issue8 tag
Bug 1699: Use term 'rules' consistently Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1699
Accepted as marked, resolved, issue8 tag
Bug 1700: Clean up 'Makefile Syntax' section Duplicate of 1657
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1700
Closed, Duplicate of 1657
Bug 1701: Fix spelling of 'Inference Rules' Accepted
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1701
Bug 1702: Consistently use 'following' or 'next' Accepted as Marked
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1702
Change "following line" to "next line".
We will continue with Issue 8 Draft 3 ballot resolution on the next call.
The next item is
Bug 1703: Replace at-sign with <commercial-at>
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1703
Next Steps
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The next call is on:
Mon 2023-06-26 (general bugs/ballot resolution)
Thu 2023-06-29 (general bugs/ballot resolution)
No calls on July 3rd or July 6th
The calls are for 90 minutes
Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)
Apologies in Advance:
Eric Blake: June 15 through July 6
Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.
Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net
An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as
below:
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