Hello,

I also approve this latest version of RFC 9621. Thanks!

Tommy

> On Dec 13, 2024, at 3:00 AM, Gorry Fairhurst <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Megan/RFC-Ed,
> 
> As an author, I'd now like to add my APPROVAL for RFC9621.
> 
> I think this is now ready.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Gorry
> 
> On 09/12/2024 19:29, Megan Ferguson wrote:
>> Yes!  That was my thought, but I could not locate it!
>> 
>> I have updated the AUTH48 status page of 9622 to reflect this 
>> (https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9622).
>> 
>> Thanks, Michael!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2024, at 11:51 AM, Michael Welzl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi !
>>> 
>>> About question 42 below:  I’m not sure if this was in a private email (by 
>>> accident?) or lost in a thread with a different subject line, …  I can’t 
>>> find it either, but I do remember checking this, and writing, to someone, 
>>> somewhere  :-)    that I think all of these cases with the slash character 
>>> should stay as they are, since they are no cases that would cause 
>>> ambiguities.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:42 PM, Megan Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good idea, Michael,
>>>> 
>>>> That is what I have tracking at the AUTH48 status pages for each doc (you 
>>>> can see the notes for the docs in the cluster all together at: 
>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C508).
>>>> 
>>>> RFC 9621: agree with your assessment.
>>>> 
>>>> RFC 9622: agree (please also see document-specific questions 39 and 41 
>>>> that overlap with the <tt> and caps questions that were cluster-wide as 
>>>> needed).  The only other document-specific question that may remain 
>>>> unresolved was 42:
>>>> 
>>>>> 42) <!--[rfced] Please review the use of the slash "/" character when it
>>>>>    communicates "and", "or", or "and/or" and consider if using one
>>>>>    of those alternatives would be clearer for the reader.
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>> GF: We still ought to do that.
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies if I have misplaced any response to this, but don’t see anything 
>>>> when I scan the old messages.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> RFC 9623: agree
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> 
>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Michael Welzl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps it would be good to sync - I believe that, at this point:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) as you say, the only outstanding issue for this document is the 
>>>>> cluster-wide query #4,
>>>>> 2) the only outstanding issues for RFC 9622 are the cluster-wide queries 
>>>>> #4 and #5,
>>>>> 3) the only outstanding issues for RFC 9623 are the cluster-wide queries 
>>>>> #4 and #5.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:24 PM, Megan Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just duplicating the message to the cluster-wide message in this thread 
>>>>>> as well for convenience/completeness:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Gorry and Michael,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for sending along the file for RFC 9621 updated for <tt> 
>>>>>> consistency.  We used that version and added in the other cluster-wide 
>>>>>> update to use multistream (closed compound) as well as the changes Gorry 
>>>>>> requested.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We believe the only outstanding issue for this document is the response 
>>>>>> to the capitalization consistency cluster-wide query (#4).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please review the other updates and let us know if further changes are 
>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.txt
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.pdf
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.xml
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Diff files are available here (please refresh):
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-diff.html (comprehensive)
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-rfcdiff.html (comprehensive 
>>>>>> rfcdiff)
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48 
>>>>>> changes)
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastdiff.html (last version 
>>>>>> to this)
>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastrfcdiff.html (ditto but 
>>>>>> rfcdiff)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2024, at 2:11 PM, Megan Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gorry and Colin,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for your replies.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have updated the POSIX reference to point to the 2024 version.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regarding this change:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>>>> It is RECOMMENDED that the Transport Services API offer properties
>>>>>>>> that are common to multiple transport protocols.
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> It is RECOMMENDED that the Transport Services API offers properties
>>>>>>>> that are common to multiple transport protocols.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        • Please check this change is still correct: My reading is that 
>>>>>>>> this ought to say "offers", because there is only abstract API for the 
>>>>>>>> transport services. I'm content if you check this and prefer your 
>>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>> We have left as was.  If interested, a quick reference exists here: 
>>>>>>> http://www.englishpage.com/minitutorials/subjunctive.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please review the other updates and let us know if further changes are 
>>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.txt
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.pdf
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.xml
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Diff files are available here (please refresh):
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-diff.html (comprehensive)
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-rfcdiff.html (comprehensive 
>>>>>>> rfcdiff)
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-auth48diff.html (all AUTH48 
>>>>>>> changes)
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastdiff.html (last version 
>>>>>>> to this)
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastrfcdiff.html (ditto but 
>>>>>>> rfcdiff)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2024, at 12:10 PM, Gorry Fairhurst <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please see  below:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 06/12/2024 18:48, Megan Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Colin,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for pointing this out.  We have folded this change into our 
>>>>>>>>> current version of the files (see below).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps I am missing it, but I *think* we haven’t seen a response to 
>>>>>>>>> this question from a previous mail:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2) Regarding the [POSIX] reference, should we update to the 2017 or 
>>>>>>>>> 2024 version?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> May we assume that the most current is desired?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes - I think we should update to the most current!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.txt
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.pdf
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.xml
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-diff.html
>>>>>>>>> (comprehensive diff)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>> (AUTH48 changes only)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>> (last to current version only)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may 
>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 
>>>>>>>>> status page prior to moving forward to publication.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9621
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I did a detailed read and found two anomolies and one query, could you 
>>>>>>>> look at these, and I then expect to approve?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>>>> It is RECOMMENDED that the Transport Services API offer properties
>>>>>>>> that are common to multiple transport protocols.
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> It is RECOMMENDED that the Transport Services API offers properties
>>>>>>>> that are common to multiple transport protocols.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>        • Please check this change is still correct: My reading is that 
>>>>>>>> this ought to say "offers", because there is only abstract API for the 
>>>>>>>> transport services. I'm content if you check this and prefer your 
>>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>>>> The input from an operating system or other global
>>>>>>>>  preferences that can constrain or influence how an implementation
>>>>>>>>  will gather candidate paths and Protocol Stacks
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> The input from an operating system or other global
>>>>>>>>  preferences that can constrain or influence how an implementation
>>>>>>>>  will gather Candidate Paths and Candidate Protocol Stacks
>>>>>>>> ---- In the midst of all our checking, "candidate paths" somehow 
>>>>>>>> missed to be capitalised, and the word candidate ought to appear 
>>>>>>>> before both items, since these are terms.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>>>> The input from an operating system or other global
>>>>>>>>  preferences that can constrain or influence how an implementation
>>>>>>>>  will gather Candidate Paths and Protocol Stacks and race the
>>>>>>>>  candidates during establishment of a Connection.
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> The input from an operating system or other global
>>>>>>>>  preferences that can constrain or influence how an implementation
>>>>>>>>  will gather Candidate Paths and Candidate Protocol Stacks and race the
>>>>>>>>  candidates during establishment of a Connection.
>>>>>>>> ----  It is the "Candidate Protocol Stacks" that are raced, not a 
>>>>>>>> Protocol Stack.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gorry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Colin Perkins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all the work on this. I have just one nit: in the bullet 
>>>>>>>>>> points at the end of Section 2, just before the Section 2.1 heading: 
>>>>>>>>>> “is asynchronous and event-driven” was changed to “is asynchronous 
>>>>>>>>>> and driven by events”. I think the original is correct, 
>>>>>>>>>> “Event-driven” is the usual term for these types of system.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise, I approve publication.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2024, at 16:42, Megan Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Brian and Gorry,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the replies. We have updated our current version of the 
>>>>>>>>>> document with the short/running title suggested by Brian.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.txt
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.pdf
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.xml
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (comprehensive diff)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (AUTH48 changes only)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (last to current version only)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you 
>>>>>>>>>> may have.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the 
>>>>>>>>>> AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9621
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2024, at 6:02 AM, Gorry Fairhurst
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/12/2024 12:47, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Not the document title, the short / footer title (which currently 
>>>>>>>>>> reads TAPS Architecture).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Aha.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I strongly agree with THAT proposal to change "<title 
>>>>>>>>>> abbrev="...:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gorry
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2024, at 13:43, Gorry Fairhurst
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/12/2024 12:37, Brian Trammell (IETF) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I’d prefer to update the running title to “Transport Services 
>>>>>>>>>> Architecture” to reflect the other documents.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We debated this in some detail earlier and arrived at:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Architecture and Requirements for Transport Services
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm just asking why we need a change now?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gorry
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> With that change, I approve this revision.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Dec 2024, at 19:49, Megan Ferguson
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Authors,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just an FYI that we have updated the files to include the title 
>>>>>>>>>> change to RFC-to-be 9622 in the reference entry. You may review the 
>>>>>>>>>> change in the files below.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please also review the short/running title using TAPS and let us 
>>>>>>>>>> know if/how this should be updated as it has been changed in the 
>>>>>>>>>> other docs in this cluster.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.txt
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.pdf
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.xml
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (comprehensive diff)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (AUTH48 changes only)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (last to current version only)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you 
>>>>>>>>>> may have.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the 
>>>>>>>>>> AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9621
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2024, at 12:50 PM, Gorry Fairhurst
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 29/11/2024 13:17, Colin Perkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Megan,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Happy with the changes so far.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the <tt> query: I actually think the use of <tt> helps 
>>>>>>>>>> readability, provided we can be sure it’s consistent. It’s not 
>>>>>>>>>> critical, but it helps.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> +1 It helps, the render I see looks good.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gorry
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Nov 2024, at 20:43, Megan Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian and Colin,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the quick replies. We have a few comments/questions to 
>>>>>>>>>> follow up on:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • Regarding the use of <tt>:
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Please review usage of <tt> in this document, and let 
>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> know if any updates are needed. For example, we see
>>>>>>>>>> "to initiate a connection" (no <tt>) and "to Initiate a Connection"
>>>>>>>>>> in the XML file. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The usage here is not consistent.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The intention is that terms appearing in Figure 4 representing 
>>>>>>>>>> methods are rendered in monospace (this is an implementation of the 
>>>>>>>>>> backtick notation in Markdown, from which these XML files are 
>>>>>>>>>> generated).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <tt> around Listen, Initiate, Rendezvous, Rendezvous, Receive, Send, 
>>>>>>>>>> Close, Abort (as capitalized) should remain; I see some around 
>>>>>>>>>> Connection that are spurious and can be removed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If this styling isn’t supported by the RFC Editor’s renderings of 
>>>>>>>>>> the XML, <tt> can also be safely removed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Before we make any updates to the use of <tt> in this document, we 
>>>>>>>>>> suggest the authors have a look at both:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -the related <tt> query for RFC-to-be 9622 and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -the html output for RFC-to-be 9622
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> and consider how to handle them with the following in mind:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • Whether the large volume of <tt> tags in RFC-to-be 9622, in 
>>>>>>>>>> addition to a heavy amount of capped terms, might actually be 
>>>>>>>>>> distracting to readers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • The author workload necessary to make the use of <tt> tags 
>>>>>>>>>> consistent within RFC-to-be 9622 itself and among the docs in the 
>>>>>>>>>> cluster. Because many of these terms vary in capitalization (see the 
>>>>>>>>>> example in our original query above) or are used sometimes in a 
>>>>>>>>>> general sense or without labels, locating and applying these fixes 
>>>>>>>>>> may prove somewhat difficult.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Note: We are currently completing our review of RFC-to-be 9623, 
>>>>>>>>>> which also uses <tt>.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please let us know how best to proceed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • Regarding the [POSIX] reference, should we update to the 2017 or 
>>>>>>>>>> 2024 version?
>>>>>>>>>> All other updates are available for you to review.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
>>>>>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.txt
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.pdf
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.html
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621.xml
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The relevant diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (comprehensive diff)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (AUTH48 changes only)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9621-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>>> (last to current version only)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you 
>>>>>>>>>> may have.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the 
>>>>>>>>>> AUTH48 status page prior to moving forward to publication.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9621
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Brian Trammell (IETF)
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, all,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Answers to editor questions inline, below.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Nov 2024, at 00:29,
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Authors,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as 
>>>>>>>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Note: Further questions that affect multiple documents in this 
>>>>>>>>>> cluster (C508)
>>>>>>>>>> will be sent in separate mail.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please see cluster info at:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/C508
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear 
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> title) for use on
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/search
>>>>>>>>>> . -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 1: Per Internet searches, it appears that some
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> consider the BSD Socket API to be distinct from the POSIX Socket API.
>>>>>>>>>> Please confirm that this text will be clear to readers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> Many application programming interfaces (APIs) to provide transport
>>>>>>>>>> interfaces to networks have been deployed, perhaps the most widely
>>>>>>>>>> known and imitated being the BSD Socket [POSIX] interface (Socket
>>>>>>>>>> API). -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We can remove BSD here “…the Socket [POSIX] interface"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 1.4: We do not see the terms/words
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "Transport Property" or any form of "prohib*" in RFC 8095.
>>>>>>>>>> Please confirm that this citation is correct and will be clear to
>>>>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • Transport Property: A property that expresses requirements,
>>>>>>>>>> prohibitions and preferences [RFC8095]. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I suspect this is vestigial.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> “A property of a transport protocol and the services it provides 
>>>>>>>>>> [RFC8095]."
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: To what does "which are" refer in this
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> sentence - the identifiers, the IP addresses, or something else?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>> requires applications to specify identifiers for the Local and Remote
>>>>>>>>>> Endpoint that are higher-level than IP addresses, such as a hostname
>>>>>>>>>> or URL, which are used by a Transport Services Implementation for
>>>>>>>>>> resolution, path selection, and racing. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The identifiers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Please review usage of <tt> in this document, and let 
>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> know if any updates are needed. For example, we see
>>>>>>>>>> "to initiate a connection" (no <tt>) and "to Initiate a Connection"
>>>>>>>>>> in the XML file. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The usage here is not consistent.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The intention is that terms appearing in Figure 4 representing 
>>>>>>>>>> methods are rendered in monospace (this is an implementation of the 
>>>>>>>>>> backtick notation in Markdown, from which these XML files are 
>>>>>>>>>> generated).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <tt> around Listen, Initiate, Rendezvous, Rendezvous, Receive, Send, 
>>>>>>>>>> Close, Abort (as capitalized) should remain; I see some around 
>>>>>>>>>> Connection that are spurious and can be removed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If this styling isn’t supported by the RFC Editor’s renderings of 
>>>>>>>>>> the XML, <tt> can also be safely removed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.1: To what does "this" refer in this
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> sentence?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original (the previous sentence is included for context):
>>>>>>>>>> A Remote Endpoint Identifier can also
>>>>>>>>>> represent a multicast group or anycast address. In the case of
>>>>>>>>>> multicast, this selects a multicast transport for communication. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> NEW: “In the case of multicast, a multicast transport will be 
>>>>>>>>>> selected"
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.2: We do not see "Remote Endpoint
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Identifier" mentioned in Section 4.1.3. Please confirm that this
>>>>>>>>>> citation is correct and will be clear to readers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> It has state that
>>>>>>>>>> describes parameters of the Connection: the Local Endpoint
>>>>>>>>>> Identifier from which that Connection will be established, the
>>>>>>>>>> Remote Endpoint Identifier (Section 4.1.3) to which it will
>>>>>>>>>> connect, and Transport Properties that influence the paths and
>>>>>>>>>> protocols a Connection will use. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The citation is spurious (probably vestigial) and can be removed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.3: We changed "fast open support" to
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "support for TCP Fast Open" per usage elsewhere in this cluster and
>>>>>>>>>> per post-6000 published RFCs. Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> Examples of properties
>>>>>>>>>> that influence protocol selection and configuration of transport
>>>>>>>>>> protocol features include reliability, multipath support, and fast
>>>>>>>>>> open support.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>> Examples of properties
>>>>>>>>>> that influence protocol selection and configuration of transport
>>>>>>>>>> protocol features include reliability, multipath support, and
>>>>>>>>>> support for TCP Fast Open. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> While TCP is the only transport protocol supporting a fast open 
>>>>>>>>>> feature, the choice here was deliberate to refer to the class of 
>>>>>>>>>> transport protocol features containing TCP Fast Open in the 
>>>>>>>>>> abstract. Either is fine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.7: We had trouble parsing this sentence.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We updated it as follows. If this is incorrect, please clarify the
>>>>>>>>>> text.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • Close: The action an application takes on a Connection to indicate
>>>>>>>>>> that it no longer intends to send data, is no longer willing to
>>>>>>>>>> receive data, and that the protocol should signal this state to
>>>>>>>>>> the Remote Endpoint if the transport protocol allows this.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>> Close: The action an application takes on a Connection to indicate
>>>>>>>>>> that it no longer intends to send data or is no longer willing to
>>>>>>>>>> receive data. The protocol should signal this state to the Remote
>>>>>>>>>> Endpoint if the transport protocol permits it. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> yep this is better (and remains as intended), thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.1.7: This sentence does not parse. If the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> suggested text is not correct, please clarify how "and immediately
>>>>>>>>>> drop the connection" relates to the rest of the sentence.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • Abort: The action the application takes on a Connection to
>>>>>>>>>> indicate a Close and also indicate that the Transport Services
>>>>>>>>>> System should not attempt to deliver any outstanding data, and
>>>>>>>>>> immediately drop the connection.
>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>>>> Abort: The action the application takes on a Connection to indicate
>>>>>>>>>> a Close and also indicate that the Transport Services System
>>>>>>>>>> should not attempt to deliver any outstanding data and should
>>>>>>>>>> immediately drop the connection. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Better, but I think this could be made clearer:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Abort: The action the application takes on a Connection
>>>>>>>>>> to indicate that the Transport Services System
>>>>>>>>>> should not attempt to deliver any outstanding data, and should
>>>>>>>>>> immediately close and drop the connection
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2: This sentence does not parse. Please
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> clarify "going through a single security and transport protocol,
>>>>>>>>>> over IP; or, a multi-path transport protocol".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> A single stack can be simple (a single transport
>>>>>>>>>> protocol instance over IP), or it can be complex (multiple
>>>>>>>>>> application protocol streams going through a single security and
>>>>>>>>>> transport protocol, over IP; or, a multi-path transport protocol
>>>>>>>>>> over multiple transport sub-flows). -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Suggested rework:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> A single stack can be simple (e.g. one application stream carried 
>>>>>>>>>> TCP running over IP), or complex (e.g. multiple application streams 
>>>>>>>>>> carried over a multipath transport protocol using multiple subflows 
>>>>>>>>>> over IP).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 4.2.3: What can lead to linkability - the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> cached protocol state itself or the act of reusing it? If the
>>>>>>>>>> suggested text (the act of reusing cached protocol state) is not
>>>>>>>>>> correct, please provide clarifying text.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original (previous text is included for context; also, we
>>>>>>>>>> restructured the list):
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Possible reasons to isolate Connections using separate
>>>>>>>>>> Connection Contexts include:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • Privacy concerns about re-using cached protocol state that can
>>>>>>>>>> lead to linkability.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>>>> Possible reasons to isolate Connections using separate
>>>>>>>>>> Connection Contexts include privacy concerns regarding:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • reusing cached protocol state, as this can lead to linkability.
>>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This is good, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Section 6: We changed "other another security protocol
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> handshake that is" to "other security protocol handshakes that are".
>>>>>>>>>> If this is incorrect, please clarify the text.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> For example, if an
>>>>>>>>>> application provides a certificate to only be used as client
>>>>>>>>>> authentication for outbound TLS and QUIC connections, the Transport
>>>>>>>>>> Services System MUST NOT use this automatically in other contexts
>>>>>>>>>> (such as server authentication for inbound connections, or in other
>>>>>>>>>> another security protocol handshake that is not equivalent to TLS).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>> For example, if an
>>>>>>>>>> application provides a certificate to only be used as client
>>>>>>>>>> authentication for outbound TLS and QUIC connections, the Transport
>>>>>>>>>> Services System MUST NOT use this automatically in other contexts
>>>>>>>>>> (such as server authentication for inbound connections or in other
>>>>>>>>>> security protocol handshakes that are not equivalent to TLS). -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> yep, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] The 2008 version of [POSIX] is marked "Superseded".
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There is a 2017 revision (
>>>>>>>>>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8277153
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> and a 2024 revision (
>>>>>>>>>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10555529
>>>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>>> Please let us know if you would like to update this reference to one
>>>>>>>>>> of these revisions; if yes, please let us know which revision is
>>>>>>>>>> appropriate for this document.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original (double dash changed to single in order to avoid xml2rfc's
>>>>>>>>>> "Double hyphen within comment" error):
>>>>>>>>>> [POSIX] "IEEE Std. 1003.1-2008 Standard for Information Technology
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>      • Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX). Open
>>>>>>>>>> group Technical Standard: Base Specifications, Issue 7",
>>>>>>>>>> 2008. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please update the reference, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] RFC 5389 has been obsoleted by RFC 8489
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8489
>>>>>>>>>> ). As the citation in
>>>>>>>>>> Section 4.1.4 appears to be general in nature, we updated this
>>>>>>>>>> document to list and cite RFC 8489 instead, per companion document
>>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-taps-interface. Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>> However, if the set of Local Endpoints includes
>>>>>>>>>> server reflexive candidates, such as those provided by STUN
>>>>>>>>>> (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT) [RFC5389], a Rendezvous
>>>>>>>>>> action will race candidates in the style of the ICE (Interactive
>>>>>>>>>> Connection Establishment) algorithm [RFC8445] to perform NAT
>>>>>>>>>> binding discovery and initiate a peer-to-peer connection.
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> [RFC5389] Rosenberg, J., Mahy, R., Matthews, P., and D. Wing,
>>>>>>>>>> "Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)", RFC 5389,
>>>>>>>>>> DOI 10.17487/RFC5389, October 2008,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5389
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>> However, if the set of Local Endpoints includes
>>>>>>>>>> server-reflexive candidates, such as those provided by STUN
>>>>>>>>>> (Session Traversal Utilities for NAT) [RFC8489], a Rendezvous
>>>>>>>>>> action will race candidates in the style of the ICE (Interactive
>>>>>>>>>> Connectivity Establishment) algorithm [RFC8445] to perform NAT
>>>>>>>>>> binding discovery and initiate a peer-to-peer connection.
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> [RFC8489] Petit-Huguenin, M., Salgueiro, G., Rosenberg, J., Wing,
>>>>>>>>>> D., Mahy, R., and P. Matthews, "Session Traversal
>>>>>>>>>> Utilities for NAT (STUN)", RFC 8489, DOI 10.17487/RFC8489,
>>>>>>>>>> February 2020,
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8489
>>>>>>>>>> . -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please update the reference, thanks!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> online Style Guide at
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language
>>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature
>>>>>>>>>> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for
>>>>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In addition, please consider whether "tradition" should be updated
>>>>>>>>>> for clarity (possibly "commonly used", "typical", or
>>>>>>>>>> "long-established"). While the NIST website
>>>>>>>>>> (
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nist.gov/nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-author-instructions#table1
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>> indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous.
>>>>>>>>>> "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for 
>>>>>>>>>> everyone. -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The use of “traditional” here is meant to refer to the UNIX 
>>>>>>>>>> programming tradition; I believe this is inclusive of all networking 
>>>>>>>>>> systems programmers using UNIX systems or those systems compatible 
>>>>>>>>>> with and/or inspired by them (and the insight, and indeed the 
>>>>>>>>>> entirety of the TAPS work, is irrelevant to people who are not 
>>>>>>>>>> networking systems prorgammers), so IMO this is fine to keep.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> • <!-- [rfced] The following terms were used inconsistently in this
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> document. We chose to use the latter forms. Please let us know
>>>>>>>>>> any objections.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Transport Feature / transport feature (in running text)
>>>>>>>>>> (per usage elsewhere in this document, in the rest of this
>>>>>>>>>> cluster, and in RFC 8303)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Transport Service API (1 instance in Cluster 508) /
>>>>>>>>>> Transport Services API (per the rest of this document and the
>>>>>>>>>> cluster)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Transport Service System (1 instance in Cluster 508) /
>>>>>>>>>> Transport Services System (per the rest of this document and the
>>>>>>>>>> cluster) -->
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> These are fine, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb/mf
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> IMPORTANT
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Updated 2024/11/18
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> RFC9621 (draft-ietf-taps-arch-19)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Title : Architecture and Requirements for Transport Services
>>>>>>>>>> Author(s) : T. Pauly, Ed., B. Trammell, Ed., A. Brunstrom, G. 
>>>>>>>>>> Fairhurst, C. S. Perkins
>>>>>>>>>> WG Chair(s) : Reese Enghardt, Aaron Falk
>>>>>>>>>> 
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